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U.N. passes "defamation of religion" resolution calling it "human rights violation"
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Old Apr 4, 2009, 06:23 AM Local time: Apr 4, 2009, 07:23 PM #1 of 20
this is a dark day for us all!...(atheists)

definitely, while they're trying to solve the problem of discrimination, another problem is created in the process.

Also, what would constitute defamation of religion? For example, would it be taken to mean even perhaps pointing out some inconsistencies in facts of a religion(from a typical atheist point of view), can be considered as defamation?

Yes, i think freedom of speech would be stifled greatly with this

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Old Apr 10, 2009, 07:34 AM Local time: Apr 10, 2009, 08:34 PM #2 of 20
I hope you realize that evangelizing against religion is as antagonizing as evangelizing for it. Two way street, and all that.
Yes, I agree with this.

But the following statement below does not convince me.

Also there are strong parallels between proclaiming your atheism and proclaiming your faith. They are both distasteful.
Much as I am an atheist, at least, I do not think proclaiming your faith is a distasteful act. And vice versa.
I believe that all individuals should have a freedom of what he/she wants to believe in.

The issue here is that only when people try to impose their views on others, ah, perhaps then thats when it gets distasteful.

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Old Apr 11, 2009, 08:53 PM Local time: Apr 12, 2009, 09:53 AM #3 of 20
The issue isn't with having the freedom to believe in things. Believe in whatever you want. His point was against proclamations, which are different than personal views. Proclamations enter the personal space of other people who often don't care about, or want to hear about, your personal views. Many people find this intrusion to be a form of imposition, particularly in areas where you're subjected to it regularly, and then find the proclamation distasteful.
To proclaim is to declare.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/proclaim
http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/Proclaim

To declare is to show openly one's beliefs.
http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/declare
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/declare

So i think for example :
While you could declare, and proclaim all you like that you are an atheist, it would not necessarily mean that you will force your beliefs on others.

I do know of very religious people, but we still get on fine despite my 20% atheism.
Same thing for the opposite. I do not force my beliefs on atheism on people with religious beliefs.

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Old Apr 13, 2009, 07:42 AM Local time: Apr 13, 2009, 08:42 PM #4 of 20
Heh. Sorry if it was misleading.

The "(from a typical atheist's point of view)" was meant to be an example, and not really my view.
Something like:
"Cigarettes are bad for health!(from a typical doctors point of view)"

Anyway, I think you bring up a good point, Kishin. Things would get ugly if everyone only bothered about their own interests.

Leads me to think that the inter-cultural/religious harmony is somewhat balanced on a knife-edge. Yes, its balanced, but really, one slight (wrong) movement, could destroy everything.

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