Thoughts on racism

Originally Posted by DragoonKain

I agree with the poster that said there are too many double standards. A lot of things are ok in one instance, but not in the other.

We tried to let you have your own little white pride clubs, but then you lost the privilege when you started killing people. Don't blame me, kike.

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Like when there are protests when a black serial killer is about to be executed. The protests aren't anti-death penalty, they are anti-killing blacks.

Way to cottoncherrypick, there.

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I think what this it trying to tell us is that racisim is a 2 way street and all sides should let it go!

It honestly doesn't matter whether you're racist or not, when you say such mind-numbingly stupid things.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by DragoonKain

lol, kike. Sorry, but I'm not even 1% jewish. I am 100% italian, so if you are going to call me anything call me a dago.

I didn't ask for your family history, you useless nigger. You honestly think we should just drop the whole racism thing.

So, like, are we going to pay the blacks restitution for slavery, or make any effort to bring them and other minorities to equal socioeconomic status with whites when we decide to stop calling each other mean things, or what?

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Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

Things leading to the cause of the first pilgrims leaving Europe to start a new colony in the Americas has EVERYTHING to do with American history. You have to start somewhere.

Even English colonization of Africa could be considered part of it, as a brief section, to explain how the slave trade arose.

lol racism

I like how you don't even bring up pre-whitey American history. Will that be a brief section too?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Oh wait, now I remember you, DarkLink2135. You're the guy way back when that thought cars aren't worshipped by white people in America.

BE CAREFUL, MINORITIES ARE DIFFERENT.

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Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

African culture is part of American history, yes - but there is no reason for it to be some huge massive focus because a few radicals can't get past the fact that their ancestors of 150+ years ago were enslaved. The development of African culture in Africa is such a far out loose end that there's no point in even covering it in an American History class, where the primary focus should be on AMERICA.

Tell me what you know about African history and culture. I have a lot of time, I can wait.

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Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

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Look, my whole point was that we are putting far too much emphasis on parts of American history that just WERE NOT important enough to justify the amount of time we spend on them.

You don't even know history, who are you to say what's important and what's not? you think some religious pissing contest in England is actually important to American history. I mean christ.

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Sure the native americans were cool, it's neat to learn about their customs, government, etc - but that has little bearing on the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, which didn't really exist until the Declaration of Independance,

Then there's no need for European history at all, since we're teaching a vaccuum.

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and the events leading up to that separation.

Now you're just cherrypicking, eskimo.

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Same with African History. There isn't any point. African History doesn't really meld at all with US History until the slave trade, thus, there isn't any need to talk about it in an American History class.

America started on the backs of slaves.

Still want you to tell me what you know about African history and culture. Go ahead and be as lengthy as you want. Doublespace if it makes you feel better.

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Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

What the FUCK are you talking about.

I never said that.

I don't think that.

You brought up car worship as a viable cultural difference between whites and hispanics (and blacks (thx Alice)) that could adversely affect relationships. As in, you don't think any white people drive H2s.

Tell me about Africa, please.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

I'm not talking about West African culture. I'm talking about AFRICAN culture, you dumbfuck. As in, the continent of AFRICA. West African culture has much to do with American History. AFRICAN culture does not have much to do with American History.

YOU ARE EDUCATED RETARDED.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

What the hell does this have to do with anything?

What's important is what helped this nation arise to the point where it is today. And I'm sorry, but black culture is not as major of a part of that as what you want to think it is. Where our nation started was with a disagreement with england over religous rights. Pilgrims came here, founded a colony, eventually got pissed off at england, won our independance. In short. Obviously there's a shitload more in between there, but I'm going to assume you hopefully know all that and that I don't need to repeat 100 years of history.

If you believe that cock and bull about pilgrims, you don't know a damn thing about history.

Do you honestly think that a whole new landmass ripe for the taking wouldn't attract other kinds of visitors, just a cult of people who hate sex and niggers? I mean christ.

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No. How on earth are you going understand the need for the Declaration of Independence if you don't know about the tensions beforehand? That's very much a part of how America arose.

But you don't want us teaching about the settlers before whitey, the tensions between them and the europeans; you don't want us teaching about the slave trade outside of America and how it impacted America. I don't know why you're so against education, maybe it takes funding away from auto class (lol whitey car worship).

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America started with the deaths of militiamen in the revolutionary war.

America existed before those men were a twinkle in their fathers' eyes.

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Read a fucking book if you want to know about it.

I know African history as it pertains to America. I don't give a shit about how Kenya arose, it has nothing to do with America.

So I'm justified in assuming you know fuck-all about African history? No wonder you think it's not important in understanding American history or colonial politics.

Okay, honestly, listen to me here: America was a colonized continent, right? And so was Africa during the same time frame. DO YOU THINK THERE MIGHT BE POSSIBLY SOME RELEVANT PARALELLS BETWEEN TWO COLONIZED AND OPPRESSED CONTINENTS DURING THE SAME ERA OF TIME POSSIBLY?

No, you don't, because you're stupid and you're racist. Go buy a Dodge Ram.

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Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

West African culture is an entirely different story. It is something that EXISTED IN AMERICA. Something with a DIRECT effect on American culture.

Can you tell me about West Africa; the culture, the history, the location?

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Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

I'm racist and sexist simply for acknowledging the FACT that men and europeans play a larger part in American history than women or minorities?

YOu can't be serious! You can't. Are you telling me that slavery and the pressures (tensions) between whites and blacks TO THIS VERY DAY have nothing on religious hissy fits in England back in the early 18th century?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

West African culture is an entirely different story. It is something that EXISTED IN AMERICA. Something with a DIRECT effect on American culture.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

I'm talking about political America. America as a country. I assume you just mean the land.

I don't.

Look, either Political America (THE UNITED STATES you moron, it already has a name) started with the Revolutionary War or it didn't; if it did, then there's no need to give preference to European history, just teach pre-Revolutionary American history.

If the United States started before the Revolution, in some nebulous proto state, maybe you should consider teaching more than just your favourite foreign countries' involvement in there.

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You are missing the point. The point there is no point in learning about how a bunch of fucking tribes in Africa killed eachother in why in an American history course.

You racist nigger.

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Gee, you think that just might be the SLAVE TRADE? Something I've repeatedly emphasized should be taught in American History courses?

Are slaves the only commodity Europe raped from Africa? Also: do you think there are no political paralells between the two, because damn

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Africans were brought here direct from Africa due to the slave trade. Slave traders stripped most of their cultural identity from them basically causing them to have to re-create their own unique culture.

You are a no-nothing. That is also a history term!

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West African culture is an entirely different story. It is something that EXISTED IN AMERICA. Something with a DIRECT effect on American culture.

West Africa is a place in America. there are many black people living there. They enjoy "soul food" and they preach voodoo. They sing very good well.

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Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

19 1/2.

Is that really necessary? The half, I mean?

I'm going to ask again. If you know very little about African history or culture, why do you feel fit to judge whether it might be relevant to an American history course?

I will also ask, why don't you feel it's relevant to discuss pre-whitey settlers while discussing American history?

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Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

There isn't enough of a bearing on American History to put a big emphasis on it.

You don't even know what the history is, though. Why do you feel an authority in these matters? Why do you get a say?

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WHO is a racist nigger????

You think white people don't worship cars. That's pretty niggardly to me.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

These smaller, less obvious bits do NOT need to have the same amount of importance and time put on them as the large, obvious bits of history.

You didn't read Deni's post well good enough if you still think this.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

Are you actually trying to tell me that political ties between Africa and Europe have a large enough impact on American history to require more than a passing sentence in a textbook?

I said 'relevant', not 'impacting', carboy.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Crash Landon

For the larger part, all those who were involved with slavery and the greater era of segregation are dead. On all sides of the fences.

Many companies directly benefited from slavery in the past, and they are still kicking around. They might not be individuals, and this might have nothing to do with paleface / darkies, but there you go.

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Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

Fuck you and your 3 brain cells.

Go to bed and then re-read my posts when you have a scrap of intelligence. The current emphasis put on native american history, government, culture, etc, is not called for in current American history curriculum.

Not everything is black and white, all or nothing.

So why don't you think we should learn about injuns? Aren't they Americans too?

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I never once said this, nor do I think this. You have the reading comprehension of a fucking brick.

You did say it. I posted a link previously in regards to that. If that's not what you meant, perhaps you shouldn't have used car worship as an example of differences between hispanics and white folks. I mean, is it that difficult to say what you mean?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

Goodnight, I'm done here. I'm down to endlessly repeating myself because I can't get certain points through lurker's and devo's skull.

Do you think you're convincing anyone?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

Why, because I have a bunch of fucking idiots who can't realize that when I say that the current emphasis on subject A isn't called for, I don't mean that we shouldn't learn about it at all?

It means you think we should learn less of it, and more (I guess) of your favourite European countries and dudes. Do you honestly think you're convincing anyone of anything other than your inability to read context? Look, that is a trait most folks have; if you don't, I guess you can't help it, but that doesn't mean you ought to be dictating curricula when you barely know the history yourself.



I bet there's a lot of hispanics in this car.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

Why the fuck is everything black and white with you? If one culture worships cars, the other CAN'T.

You used it as an example of the differences between those two races, though. One can only assume that if you feel hispanics worship cars, then whites do not, or to not nearly a severe degree; if you did not feel this way you would not have said it.

Am I explaining contextual clues to you.

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My point was the hispanic culture in general takes much better care of their cars, and puts a lot more money into them than white people do.

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Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

All you care about is latching on to a single sentence that I post, trying to make it look like THAT is my primary emphasis, and PMSing all over it.

If you would stop repeating the same thing over and over ("The empathesis of this minority group in history class is way over-represented, I feel that we should learn more about the whites because they had the biggest impact on America") maybe we would too. But since that's your only point, well.

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Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

When I realize that people aren't getting what I'm saying, I KNOW it isn't something that needs changing on my end.

Are you Simply Majestic. Serious question.

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Originally Posted by BigHairyFeet

To believe the corporate entity who dealt in slaves 100 years ago is just as evil now that the slave owner's grandchildren work there would be a ridiculous assumption.

I didn't say that, I said that there are still entites around that benefited directly from slavery.

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Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

Why is so hard for you to realize that there is no point in spending an insanely large amount of time learning about the entire history of the slave trade in an AMERICAN HISTORY COURSE, which includes hundreds of other subjects.

I am NOT saying people should learn less of it, I am NOT saying people should learn more of Europeans, race has NOTHING TO FUCKING DO WITH THIS.

So you feel the amount of time spent learning about slavery in America is unjustified (a week is unjustified? Two weeks?) but you don't think the amount of time should be lessened any.

Well then.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

Relevance to American History is what is important. Slave trade is a big part of American History. But not such a big part that we need to start learning the entire history of West Africa instead of other, more relevant parts of American History.

Such as the crusades and the King James' book.

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Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

How about you stop putting lies in my mouth directly contradicting that exact point, so I don't have to repeat myself to some fucking braindead prick who can't seem to grasp a very simple concept ->

"The emphasis of this minority group in history class is over-represented, I feel that we should learn more about European immigrants because they had a bigger impact on American society & politics."

Fixed.

Hmm.... no, that's exactly what we got from what you said. No lies there sir.

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Originally Posted by BigHairyFeet

So what's the point?

It's really more of a contextual thing. A Just Sayin' sort of thing. Why?

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