Why are people so keen on gov't run healthcare again?

Originally Posted by Radez29

I recall a comment Shin made just recently about how you can't schedule appointments in the UK anymore in order to avoid months long wait-lists. Can you provide concrete examples of efficient government run health programs? I hear a lot about selective or slow service. It does not make me comfortable.

He also said this recently:

Originally Posted by Shin

Paying for medicine, what an intriguing concept.

So I mean, there is the whole concept of not having to pay hundreds of dollars a month for medicine that keeps you alive. Which happens in the US, a lot, and to people who have good health insurance.

The argument I hear frequently with regards to this is that medicine costs so much for first world countries because they can afford it, primarily, and to pay for the cost of R&D. And that, in addition, it costs so much more for us because the rest of the first world has single payer health insurance and force pharmaceuticals to charge only a certain amount.

Am I a little pissed off that my hard-earned money, both coming from my health insurance and from out-of-pocket when I need pharmaceuticals, is subsidizing the rest of the world's pill habits? Yeah, I am. Fuck you faggots.

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Maybe the defense spending budget should be brought down to $500b. That'll be a ton of money left over to pay off all those IOUs we wrote for SS, and bulk back up our civil services so people ain't driving over crumbling bridges no more.

Of course that means that the terrorists win but I don't really care what some asshole half a world away thinks while he's busy throwing acid over women because they wouldn't marry him. I got my own to take care of.

How ya doing, buddy?

He simply hasn't the time to take seriously the antics of those who "get jiggy with it".

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

well see the argument is

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by raffles288

You will lose your privacy. The government and their people will have easy access to all your medical records. The people are slowly losing their privacy and their freedom. So much for "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." Our country will turn into... get in line... and they will tell you where to go. The continue to ... live line or ... the die line.

Privacy is your concern? I don't know what makes you think anything will significantly change.

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My bet is that Grail isn't be careful in what he's saying.

My two parents had a combined income of $45k while I was going to college. I was perfectly able to get loans. Not enough to cover the entire cost of college, but it got me most of the way there.

I was offered stafford loans as well which had to be paid back immediately. I did not take those. I wasn't handed any grants, but like RR suggested I had no idea how to apply for them so I didn't.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by packrat

The top %25 has been defined as anyone who earns at or above ~55k to 65k.

What does this mean? That the top 25% of earners make BETWEEN $55k and $65k? Or does it mean that the top 25% starts between $55k and $65k, and you're just not sure which it is?

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Okay that makes sense.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?