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Originally Posted by lord-of-shadow

I'd avoid my own brother if he smoked. If you smoke, you reek. If you reek, you're unpleasant to be around. That's without even getting into any possible health considerations of second or third hand smoke

Oh that's cute, you read the newspaper like a grownup. Health concerns based on the smell of someone's clothing. In a world powered by petroleum, I call shennanigans.

Actually, you know what, I take that back. It must be frustrating when you go in the bathroom at school and it's full of smoke. It's been so long since I've been in high school that I nearly forgot how frustrating it is when you only have five minutes to take a leak and you have to deal with that shit.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by lord-of-shadow

I only brought up the third-hand smoke because a poster before me did. It never even occurred to me to worry about it before that, and I haven't done enough research on the subject to judge whether it's a legitimate concern or not.

Oh, my bad. I don't tend to read Janus' posts.

t Janus: you can bitch about third hand smoke when we're running purely off of solar panels, windmills and the power of Jesus' love. Be more concerned about relaxed environmental regulation that results in salmonella in your God-damned peanut butter.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by lord-of-shadow

My children will likely not know their grand parents well, because they'll die an early death because of their addiction. And if they don't, well... I won't let them spend much time with them anyways, because I can't allow them to look up to a smoker as a role model or authority if I can at all help it. And that is a damn shame.

You said something similar like this before, and I don't feel it was adequately covered, so I'll take the honors;

Die in a fire.

Your parents smoke so they're effectively dead to your children? Have you no respect for the people who worked long hours to put a roof over your head and food in your stomach? No appreciation for two independent people who sacrificed their independence in order to raise you right?

Did your parents rape you?
did they abandon you, either literally or figuratively through neglect?
Did they teach you poor eating habits, turning you into a giant hambeast in your teenage years?
Did they indoctrinate you into a cult, a legitimate real-life cult, something tragic like the Branch Davidians or something more mild like Scientology?
Were they addicted to hard drugs like heroin or cocaine? Were you born addicted to crack?

Have some goddamn respect you self-absorbed kid.

Additional Spam:
And love your brother too, even though he committed the grievous sin of smoking and becoming addicted to it. There are very few relationships you will have in your life that will have the depth and resilience as the one you have with your siblings, and giving that up over something as trite as his smoking habit is a damn shame indeed.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by lord-of-shadow

Lurker: I wasn't referring to my own parents; it was my fiance's. Not that that makes much of a difference, I'm sure, since the same arguments could just be leveled at her. Despite this, a parent's #1 concern is generally going to be their children's well-being. Exposing them frequently to an authority figure or role model that smokes is contrary to the parent's need to raise their kids to not smoke. And said kids' future is more important than the feelings of the grandparents. Grandparents who, at least in the case of my fiance's parents, will understand and respect the reasoning behind it, even if it pains them.

Moving on, my brother does not smoke. If he did, I would not break off the relationship, for the reasons you so elegantly pointed out. I would likely not spend as much time with him though, and the same reasoning that applied to the kids and grandparents would apply to him.

Yeah, both you and your fiancee are douchebags.

Consider: if you cut family out of your life because they smoke*, you are teaching your children that it's okay to cut family out of their lives over tiny slights. Better not plan on depending on them for anything, ever.

* and only visiting them when you absolutely have to is essentially cutting them out of your life, Mr. Pedant For Rules

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Midna

I'd like to point out also that you're concerned about how a kid would turn out when they have smokers for role models, but you see nothing lacking in your fiancee, who was raised by smokers.

f'real

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Shin

Did you know, statistically you lose half of your audience for every 11 seconds a webpage takes to load. On that basis, you're probably the only person who's ever seen whatever's loading up on that page.

Interestingly enough, it loaded fast enough for me to not lose interest HOWEVER I dropped out when I saw it was a flash video.

Maybe my brain is addled because my parents let me visit my grandmother, who smoked. Talk about irresponsible...

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Also, nice posting in a thread that deals with substance addiction, Frank. You can get a new liver faster than a new set of lungs, after all.

I know a dude who needed new lungs, and I know a dude who needed a new liver. Crash got his shit first.

Just sayin'.

FELIPE NO

She also wants to kill half the world's population to ease concerns over over-population. One wonders why she isn't for more widespread smoking.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?