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Saddam Hussein to receive death penalty
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Sarag
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Old Nov 7, 2006, 12:33 AM #1 of 175
Originally Posted by Night Phoenix
The ONLY reason why the United States will lose in Iraq is because of people demanding that we essentially give up.

If we stay and fight, we will win, hands down, every time. It's not a matter of ability, it's a matter of will and quite simply, the civillian population of the United States and half of its population doesn't have the will to do what it takes to win in Iraq.
I like how you don't know anything about war.

How do you define victory, in this case? Does it involve glowing green parking lots?

edit: I like how I just said what Mikey did. Way to not read the rest of the replies.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Nov 8, 2006, 12:32 AM #2 of 175
Originally Posted by Night Phoenix
The cost of winning is preferrrable to the cost of losing.
Again, what is your definition of a victory in Iraq? I'm sorry, I'm just having difficulty understanding how the US can win a foreign country's civil war.

Apropos of nothing, Night Phoenix, you seem to be a very bang-up kind of guy. Very support the troops. Aren't you of enlistable age?

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Old Nov 8, 2006, 03:46 PM #3 of 175
It's good news, NP. Wounded veterans with missing limbs are being sent back to Iraq, so your injury might not be as big of a burden as you might think.

But you're mistaken about my argument, sir. You can support the troops until the cows come home while being a civilian, that's silly to say that you can't. But, I don't see you crying over flag-draped coffins or bitching about vet benefits being cut back, in this thread. You're smart enough to read what I'm trying to say.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Nov 8, 2006, 07:04 PM #4 of 175
Well, I certainly hope your brother stays safe and in one piece. I don't know why, or even how, you could view 'killing all the insurgents' as victory and at the same time say the troops safety is in your best interest. That's all I'm saying.

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Old Nov 9, 2006, 03:28 PM #5 of 175
Originally Posted by SCHWARZE-3
How can you possibly say that time is on your side with dozens of soldiers and innocent people dying on a daily basis?
Because he doesn't have to deal with it.

Alternately, he forgets how passionate people - yes, even insurgents - can be when it comes to making things difficult for politicians they don't agree with.

It's a weird argument, all told. Saying that time is on our side, but then saying that we have to stick it out to the long, bitter end. No wonder he's against a timetable, that would mean making a strategy and sticking with it.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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