THE RiPPERS' STASH (Game Rips Directory Ideas)

Huh. A few thoughts from the new dude:

1. What do you stick on there?

Game rip info, who ripped it, the compression used, and whatever other comments are deemed necessary.

PROBLEM: There are multiple game rips that have been done for each game, which ones get listed for a given title?

SOLUTION: Simps. All or one (or two). Huh? That's right. List all the gamerips submmitted by users with their corresponding information, or pick the best one(s).

PROBLEM: How do you pick the best one?

SOLUTION: Well, there should be a voting system enforced. Any old person should be able to flag a rip as being poorly done, or falsely advertised as well as being able to give props to those that are doing their job. This can automatically move rips up and down the list. Unfortunately, this can be abused, but such is life.

If someone in power decides that a rip is best, or better, he "Stars" it and it stays on top of the bunch, regardless of votes. This person can obviously remove duds as well.

So, where does the "All or one" come in? It doesn't really... Those that are "Starred" are considered to be the highest quality available for that one game, so people can easily tell which they should go for. If the administrator wants it tidy, or to prevent the spread of lower-class rips, he can easily remove the unstarred rips.

2. So, apart from information on the rip, we need to know how to actually acquire the rips.

Right, people will have to volunteer information on where to pick these guys up. I don't think it's right to just up and add someone's ftp info, they'd have to be asked permission or do it themselves. Websites that host music can probably be listed by a third party, although that still would not be the best of actions.

PROBLEM: If someone finds/has a rip location, how do they know whether to add it as a mirror location under one of the rips listed already, or as a new rip?

SOLUTION: Well, a rip shouldn't be listed in the first place, unless the person doing so has the rip itself AND listed a primary download source. Preferably the person who did the rip itself would do undertake doing so. The person listing it should know what's what, eh wot? Pardon.

In any case, what of those random sites with music found, or people with FTPs that are unsure of whether theirs is a copy of one listed or one that's new?

I don't know exactly. This can cause a snag. Obviously, the more mirrors listed under any given rip, the better. Best I can think of, is listing the primary download source, and then allowing people to post mirrors and saying they are secondary until verified.

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Ah, there's more to say, but I'm drifting... later perhaps. Hopefully what I've said makes sense, there are just to many contingencies to sift through.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

There are two paths to take here, creating the end all, and be all, of game ripping directories OR making it easy to find and download high quality game rips by just listing those.

Seems you are in favor of the first, and that also was the kind I was describing in my prior post (which I'm not necessarily in favor of). Problem is, that direction will be a pain in the butt. There is a far easier way to do all this, but it will be self-serving to the GFF forums. I'll talk about that later.

In any case, you are right, there is no reason why rips can't be added if there is no download location. For completion purposes, and all that. Okay, there IS a reason. It makes it far easier for any buffoon to put up rip information and claim they (or another) did it, when in reality they are just looking for easy recognition or just wish to spam. Why? Obviously, with no download source, nobody can verify the rips existence, or it's authenticity. The "Props or Drop" system would be rendered useless as well for these cases, seeing that there is no basis for people to vote on.

Other than that, there really is no problem. In the end, it would just be text. Text that people can ignore, if they wish, in favor of rips listed that can be verified.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

If this website is ONLY available to GFF, then there will be very little chance of there being fake rips or spam. This is simply because your forum account would be linked to the acccount you have on the directory, so, it would be easy to tell who did what.

If the website will be publically accessible AND modifiable, you will eventually get people who want to cause trouble. No question. All it takes is one jerk to mess with things. You just have to be prepared for this eventuality.

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I remember cubed's site, "CubeWorld" or something, had a "z" in it somewhere. Nice place, but I only recall one rip per title being listed. That was why it was so organized, wasn't it? It was well done, for what it did. However, a directory it was not, more a repository.

Now that I see where you are coming from, Kaleb.G, I will focus on a different take concerning this directory idea in my next post.

More later.

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Originally Posted by Kaleb.G

Double Post:
One thing that could be done is to allow users to sign up and post rips from other people. The thing with cubed's site was that you could only post rips you did yourself. I think this might be a good solution.

A good solution to increase the number of rips added, yes, but it creates another problem. I touched on it earlier, but the description was all muddled.

How do these people submitting rips, which they have not created themselves, know whether it is a new rip, or whether it is one of those already listed? It would be rather annoying to have to download a track from each rip, and compare them with the one being considered for submission to verify this.

To make it easier, perhaps when a new rip is submitted, an entire tracklist should be included with the exact formatting used in the rip and an example MP3 tag from the rip should be put up as well.

The user adding a new rip can quickly check to see whether the rip they have matches another's tracklist identically (which isn't the best way to verify, mind) and/or whether the sample MP3 tag matches theirs as well.

Still, it may annoy some to have to go through each rip and verify this, hopefully a search function can be utilised.

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