[Multiplatform] Ivalice Alliance

This is the time line (Oldest in chronology story-wise) as it has been most likely hypothesized:

FFXII ---> FFXII:RW ---> FFTactics ---> Vagrant Story.

This new game = No Idea, obviously. Looks like SquareEnix finally realized people luv Ivalice. I admit I've warmed to the whole 'world', although its very close to the overused medieval fantasy which I abhor. Luckily they deviated far enough to make it enjoyable.

Also to those who might be confused, FFTA was the Equivalent of Super Mario Bros 2 (Doki Doki Panic! in Japan) or Legend of Zelda - Link's Awakening:

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It was all a dream.

(Bonus: Both in Link's Awakening and FFTA, it could be argued that you play as the villain, since you ultimately destroy the dream world).

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Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

And VS wouldn't take place that far ahead of XII, since it frequently cites 'Naturalist Merlose' in encounters with certain monsters. That would put it sometime before XII. Or if you don't to view this reference in this light, it could be an ancestor, but Merlose is a she in the entries.

That's the problem isn't it? As I said it was only a Hypothesis. There's evidence for VS taking both far ahead and far behind the other two games.

But I wonder: Where would Lea Monde be located in Ivalice in relation to other places?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Generic Badass

Oh right, I forgot to mention that.

Do the people mention Merlose in the game, or is it part of the narration (be it spoken by no one in cutscenes or part of item descriptions and the like)? I can't recall, but if it's the latter, it doesn't necessarily mean it's giving away a general time period. As you might recall, the game quotes Alazlam in the very beginning.

The only definite pieces of information which relate to the other games would be the following:

- (FFXII), Ivalice uses the Old Valendian Calender, which would indicate that Valendia no longer exists as the time of FFXII.
- (VS) There is a Temple of Kiltia, which the religion can also be found in FFXII in Mt. Bur-Omisacse as the Temple of the Gran Kiltias, which would suggest that either the Religion still exists, so that it used to beforehand at some point (The Cathedral could be Kiltia in name only, and be home to a different Church organization).
- (FFT) The Kingdom of Ordalia is the location of Rozzaria (FFXII) on the Ordalian Continent, while Valendia is where the current Arcadian Empire is situated, on the Valendian Continent.
- (FFXII) The rood symbol found on the cape of the Judges is also the same kind (Subtle difference in Design) found in Vagrant Story.
- A.J. Durai is also the narrator of Tactics (duh).

Some of this info might be unconfirmed. This is a combo of what I know, and what I was able to gather.

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Originally Posted by RPG Maker

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2 confirmed for DS.

O RLY?

Source of this "Confirmation"?

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Originally Posted by Kostaki

Tactics sub-franchise really deserves something better like a PS3 or Wii release.

As much as I'd like a Wii sequel, it will likely NEVER happen.

The only Final Fantasy to hit any Nintendo System has been Crystal Chronicles, which is like a spin-off series, and Tactics Advance, which is Tactics Ogre Advanced, but with Final Fantasy IP.

If they DID however make the sequel for the Wii... I don't know what to think.

The PS3, I'm afraid, would sacrifice Gameplay and/or the Game's soul/uniqueness for Sony regulations in their games (Compare to how Sony Computer Entertainment America (SCEA) has an active policy against any 2D game, or EA in general).

On the flip-side, the Wii port would probably have subtle censorship, such as mature content references, which is typical of Nintendo (I have a feeling they released Conker's fur day just to say that policy was not actually true, have a steak to feed the sharks, as it were).

Now then: What would/does the sequel entail story-wise?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

FFTA getting a Wii sequel? Now that's far fetched.

LOL. No I meant Final Fantasy Tactics (PS1) getting a Wii Sequel. Since (Last I heard), there wasn't a console chosen for the FFTactics2.

FFT = PS1
FFTA2 = DS
FFT (Port) = PSP
FFT2 = ???

I think the best decision for all would be for it being on the PS2, but since both Sony AND Squeenix are Graphic Whores (For both bad and good), they'd want to push for a PS3 Sequel with real-time magic casting or something.

However, Nintendo has new management as of late, and maybe that will indicate allowing FFT2 on the Wii. Afterall they did have the Resident Evil titles (Notably RE4, game in my signature right now), and Red Steel as a launch title for the Wii, both of which are much more directly violent then any Final Fantasy title.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Cetra

Will this false information ever die? The PS2 happens to have more 2D games than the Gamecube and XBox had combined. This policy was something completely fabricated by someone because they were upset some obscure Japan game didn't make it overseas.

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BTW, Cetra's right. I've long heard about this 2D restriction business, and it mostly comes from bitter ToD folks but many other 2D-philes can't seem to leave that horse alone.

Hmm, that may be so, but aside from Capcom Fighters, I can't think of any other 2D Games on the PS2 (They might be 2.5D, meaning 2D gameplay but 3D graphics, but I was referring to purely side-scrollers or what-not). However If its really just a case of bitter fans spreading rumors then I'll investigate more thoroughly the validity of such claims in the future. (Honestly its unlike me to spread rumors ).

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

Final Fantasy Tactics 2? The only games that were announced were FFT:TLW and FFTA 2, for the PSP and DS. FFT2 would likely be on one of Sony's consoles, although if it's on the PS3 it'll likely end up in 3D.

I could have Sworn that a FFT2 was announced as being in pre-production. I guess this shows one should not post in the morning when they have class the next day

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The PS2 would be the best bet, as they're already quite familiar with the hardware. Not to mention the console's shown it has its share of SRPG fans waiting for anything to come down the pipe.

A PS3 FFT would mean they're bringing the games to the forefront, rather than something on the side.

The main reason I'm thinking that a PS3 Sequel would be more likely is that Sony wants to push hard on their new hardware, and given the industry-wide pattern of slowly dropping support for "Legacy" Hardware once a new console comes out (A 1-2 Year Transition from my perspective), it would be beneficial to Sony (and Squareenix) that they have a capital franchise's "Next-Gen" debut on their new machine. However Squareenix has shown that its still developing for the PS2 and for Nintendo hardware, so it could go either way. I'm just trying to think from their vantage point.

I asked before but I'll ask again: What would the possible story-line for Tactics2, or FFTA2 be?

If FFTA2 is as cheesy as Marche's friend from out of town opening the same book and then all of them getting sucked in again, well I'll LOL at that.

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Just a quick/dumb Question: Tactics Advanced 2 IS for the DS right?

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Originally Posted by Metal Sphere

Yup, though I'm disappointed at the number of jobs for Seeqs and Gria. They'll have to be pretty fucking awesome jobs or else they'll be pretty useless compared to the others (and boring if they have one or two really good jobs, and the others are crap).

Thanks for confirming. I kinda got mixed up on which of the Ivalice Alliance games were for the DS or for the PSP.

Speaking or Races, Given that there was a 'new' race in Revenant Wings (Those Winged People as seen in the Scans), I wonder if they'll throw one of them into TA2?

Also,

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Al-Cid as playable or even as an NPC in your Party is a welcome addition and yet another reason to pick this up in the future

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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though that could be folks who think he should've had more than 2 or 3 scenes in the game.

That would be most fans I'd guess, including myself. I really do feel though, even with my fan-glasses off, that Al-Cid's role was too short in the game and he should have had at least a few more scenes, if not showing a bit of Rozzaria in the process. Oh well... perhaps his limited appearance was due to the team shuffle-up and the main producer getting sick? (IIRC The game was delayed half-way due to some Team Management situations or something)

Also @ Rotorblade: Tactics Advance took place in a 'fantasy' Ivalice, so its not Canon to the normal universe, where-as Tactics Advance 2 IS in the same universe, with of course the bonus characters and Cameos of which their Canonical Stature can be ignored at one's leisure.

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