[Anime] Macross/II/Plus/7/Dynamite 7/Zero

Does anyone know what became of Hikaru Ichijo and Misa Hayase after the original Macross series? That's one part of the whole Macross universe that was never explained or been accounted for.

We pretty much know they left Earth (Macross Flasback 2012) aboard the superdimensional fotress Megaroad but we never heard from them since. Max and Miriya have returned in Macross 7, and Roy Focker returned for the prequel Macross Zero. But where the hell is Hikaru and Misa?!

Macross 7:

Spoiler:

...Max and Miriya preside over Colony 7. I know that means that there were 6 previous colonies which left Earth before them, but I don't remember if they ever mentioned if the Megaroad was one if them. They found survivors of one of the colonies taken over by the Protodeviln but I'm guessing they were from colony 5 or 6.

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Spatula, if you have Macross model pics, then don't be shy to share them!!

I'd like to see what you've got.





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I meant the Hasegawa model kits. Or any pics for that matter. I might even post some photos of Macross toys I have at home.

Let me go take a few........





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Ooh, those are freakin' excellent!! Nice job!! That paint job must've taken ages to do though....... o_O

Very, very nice.





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This is pretty much how I can sum up the story of what happened between the 3:

Spoiler:

We all know that Guld Bowman was a halfbreed, meaning one of his parents was a Zentraedi while the other was human. Though there shouldn't have been any problems with this (look at Max and Miria and all 7 of their kids!) there was something wrong with Guld's physiology. A bad temper and sometimes berserker mindset often plagued him, forcing him to consume drugs to keep him in check. (Remember the shakes he had?) We know all this from the doctor's report which Miller requested.

So Guld was a little unstable to say the least. Anyways Guld, Isamu and Myung were friends since they were little and practically grew up together. So what tore them apart? Well, from their conversations you can tell that Guld and Isamu always had a competitive streak going on when it came to flying, but I think Guld's psychological problems started to manifest as he got older.

During their many flashbacks in the story, something happened to Myung and both men seemed to blame the other. In fact, as Guld finds out in the climax of his battle with Isamu, Myung was attacked and (probably) nearly raped - by himself (he sees his own reflection in the mirror). Isamu was knocked down by Guld but managed to recover as soon as Guld snapped out and realized what he was doing. Because of the immense regret and guilt of what happened, Guld repressed his memories unconciously only being able to remember the image of a distraught Myung, and Isamu holding her. Because he couldn't remember what happened before, he probably only had bits and pieces and just assumed Isamu was the reason for her distress.

When it became clear that he couldn't remember what happened, Isamu and Myung decided not to reveal the truth to Guld. As a result, Isamu and Guld's friendship fell apart. Both men drifted apart and eventually began to drift away from Myung as well. Afterwards, Myung left Eden for Earth. Isamu joined UN Spacy as a fighter pilot and Guld remained on Eden.

When Guld regains his lost memories he is ashamed, but Isamu tells him "that time during the festival.....I was the one who trashed your plane....[later]....let's just forget everything that happened after that.......I'm sorry....". Isamu apologizes first, leaving the way open for a reconcilliation between the two.

If anyone thinks otherwise or has different opinions, feel free to share.





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New product coming soon, the movie (Do You Remember Love?) version of the SDF-1 Macross will be available this December. It's to 1/5000 scale, or roughly 24cm in length and can transform into both configurations:



Transformed:


Might decide to get it, if I can find some space to display it.....





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Well, scratch that. I was thinking of getting it but after seeing the price I don't think it's worth it. If you're interested, the retail price should be around Y15'540.00, that's around HK$1'010.00 or US$130.00?

Heh, heh, that's almost as expensive as the new YF-19 coming from Yamato this November. What, is it gold-plated or something?! Why is it so expensive?!

Sheesh...

FELIPE NO

I always wanted to know what happened to Misa and Hikaru after they left Earth aboard the Megaroad, I was always hoping for some word as to their fate, whether official or otherwise.

Knowing now that Hase Arihiro is no more kind'a makes sense why no sequel was ever made, but I think there are other ways to continue the story or at least leave a footnote.

Anyway, leaving the fate of Hikaru, Misa, their daughter, and the Megaroad unknown lends to the mystery as well, I guess.





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Sorry to go back to old arguments again, but seeing those images on that link, Hikaru....

....was Macross II ever considered canon in the Macross Universe? Didn't someone mention it was an alternate universe story or something and not a sequel or whatever? I seem to remember hearing about that...

Nevertheless, those images capture every production that has appeared so far (not including games or manga); Macross, Macross: Do You Remember Love?, Macross II, Macross Plus, Macross 7, and Macross Zero.

Can't wait to see what happens in October!



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Thought I'd let you know a little bit about the update over at Gunota Headlines:

http://aeug.blogspot.com/

Quote:

Macross site renewal
Celebrating the 25th anniversary, Big West renews the official Macross site. As usual not much is available content wise, however Victor Entertainment is holding auditions for the next heroine of the upcoming Macross series.

Official Macross website
Victor Entertainment's webpage hosting the audition for lead female role

So it looks like there's gonna be another Macross feature coming up soon, though it doesn't seem to indicate whether it is a TV series, OVA, or movie. Just this piece of news has gotten me all psyched!! Hopefully the official website will shed more light on this when it is updated (hopefully soon)!!



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Rest in Peace Haneda-san. Thank you for your awesome contributions to music and to the Anime industry.



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Well, thought I'd hunt around a bit....found a trailer (I think it's a trailer) for Macross F (Frontier) on the Bandai Channel. For some reason I can't access it (I keep getting this "Sorry, you cannot access the contents" message everytime I try to go in).

Anyway, maybe you guys will have better luck. Follow the link below and click on the link in the middle of the page. You'll be at the Bandai Channel web page and will see all sorts of anime trailers you can watch (supposedly). The first slot with 『マクロスF(フロンティア)』 and a mugshot of a blonde girl is the Macross F trailer (again, supposedly. It just didn't work for me, neither of the bandwidth choices got me anywhere....)

Bandai Channel News - Macross 25th Anniversary




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Wow, whoever mentioned the show having a Macross 7 feel was pretty much on the money (oh, it was Tokubetsu). In the beginning of that trailer you can see colony ships so I guess this where Frontier takes place. The main colony ship is a clam-shell colony, pretty much exactly the same as City 7 (from Macross 7). You can see it leading all the other vessels in the beginning.

Despite the poor quality of the video, what I saw was enough to get me excited about seeing this show. The action sequences look pretty cool and I hope there will be plenty of 'em! Looks good and hopefully it will be awesome!!!!




I was speaking idiomatically.

Awesome! I just watched the subs from Shinsen as well. So far, the series is everything I was hoping for. I know it's just the first episode, but I got a really good feeling so far, like this is gonna be an excellent show.

I love the references and kick-backs to past series:

Spoiler:

- Sheryl: "Listen to my song!" (Basara Neki from Macross Seven)
- Sheryl's last name is Nome (spelled Norme in Shinsen's subs), same as Sara and Mao's surname in Macross Zero.
- When the guys are practising their routine for the concert, they're copying Isamu Dyson's hand routine from Macross Plus.
- The new version of the "Do You Remember Love"'s theme song from the Macross movie used in the credits.

more I'm sure...

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Anyone have any idea what happened to episode 2? I don't even see a raw out for it yet, let alone any fansubs. Some kind of holiday? Or was episode 1 merely a preview and the actual series airs at a later date?

Any info would be appreciated if you have it.



FELIPE NO

Whut-da-devil?! ....well, that sucks....

Anyway, thanks for clearing that up, guys.




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Well, episode one was released last week by only one or two fansub groups....probably because everyone thought it would be the same as the one released as the promo back in December. Though it's similar, there are quite a few differences.

For one, the new episode one includes the OP:

YouTube Video

you can also see a little more into the personalities of Alto and Sheryl:

Spoiler:

Alto comes off as cool but a bit headstrong too. His showboating during the concert nearly ends in disaster when he accidently knocks Sheryl off the stage (he manages to catch her though).

Sheryl comes off as a total bitch. She smiles lovingly at Alto's group on the way to her dressing room, then rips into the accompanying Kathy Glass and demands why some kids are back stage when nobody's supposed to be there. When Ms. Glass tells her they will fly as accompaniment to her performance, she calls them amateurs. Even when Ms. Glass tells her they are from Macross Frontier's Elite school she doesn't care...

As there are extras, of course a few scenes from the promo were cut out too. Not that anyone will miss them really.

Spoiler:

They did cut out the ghost (unmanned) fighters debut though which was supposed to demonstrate that electronic brains in unmanned fighters or even missiles were affected by some form of jamming and were therefore unreliable in combat.

Another group has released episode two so I will probably catch that a little bit later on.





EDIT: Ooops forgot about the eyecatch: the "Nyan nyan" restaurant commercial

YouTube Video

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Originally Posted by MrSatan

but i foind myself longing for for some fire bomber songs, LISTEN TO MY FIRE!!!!!!!

Episode 2, about 14:43. Alto and Ozma in car. Radio playing - Totsugeki LOVE HEART!!

Remember this song?




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Episode 3 was pretty good. More fleshing out the characters and seeing Altoh, Sheryl and Ranka's interactions is interesting and funny (the tuna buns LOL).

I can't wait to see more action coming up, though I was a bit surprised to see in the next episode preview....

Spoiler:

....that some Queadluun-Rau mecha appear. Are they enemies or perhaps part of Altoh's training?

Also:


When Earth started it's colonization journeys, you can see in the pic all the expeditions that left in 2012. The MEGAROAD-01 can be seen, which supposedly was the mission headed by Hikaru Ichijo and Misa Hayase. On the other side is the MACROSS07. M-FRONTIER can be seen on the right. Amazing how they could launch all these colonies out in the same year. MEGAROAD-04 reached EDEN in the same year and sent its own colonies out in 2013. They must've had some amazing resources as well as Zentraedi technology to pull all that off. You can even see that one of Eden's expedition colonies is the M-GALAXY, the home of Sheryl Nome.

Now waiting for episode 4 somewhat impatiently.....




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AiA & I-Z are currently releasing it in something like 704x396 res version (around roughly 174mb each I guess). The quality is pretty crisp and clear too, not like the promo 1st episode. Their episodes are in MP-4 format though so you'll need MpcStar to play the files.

AiA I-Z ~ Macross Frontier ep.01
AiA I-Z ~ Macross Frontier ep.02
AiA I-Z ~ Macross Frontier ep.03





EDIT: Ah, it's 768x432!!

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Episode 4 was pretty cool. Despite being mainly a training exercise for Altoh, the action was pretty intense and interwoven nicely with Ranka's side.


As for the Pixie Squadron's Captain Klein Klan:
ZENTRAEDI version:



and MICRONIZED version:


Looks like something went a little bit wrong in the shrinking process....
(To those who have seen the original Macross series, the huge Tuna head on another table in the background should bring back memories! )





I was speaking idiomatically.

The tuna:

In the beginning of the original Macross series, Hikaru and Minmay are trapped somewhere in the hold of the SDF-1 for several days. In order to survive they had to search for food and discovered a huge tuna fish floating around the zero-g cargo hold (they speculated that it must've been transported into space alongwith the SDF-1 when it tried it's fold system for the first time and accidently transported much of the island and surrounding sea with it). In one scene (or before I can't remember) where they enact a wedding (due to Minmay's belief that no one would rescue them and that they would die there) all that was left of the tuna was it's head sitting in a pan.

Maybe that's how they make soup.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Looks like the next episode is gonna rock!! I can't wait to see some real action when the SMS and Pixies start smacking the Vajra around (or will it be the other way around?). Either way, this is another episode I can't wait to see!

Spoiler:

Hey, is this the enemy or that weird shadowy guy referred to as "Mr. Gilra" by the President? Probably a bad guy, huh?

Any news on a soundtrack release for Macross Frontier? The song Ranka sings (a Sheryl number from the first episode) in episode 5 is stuck in my head now. I really want this song!!




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As far as I know, Gattai and AiA/I-Z are the fastest so far to release episodes. Shinsen Subs are also out there but they've been taking their time with their releases (they haven't even released episode 6 yet). Others here may be checking out the raws or something I guess.... (or maybe some one here is part of a subbing group? Either in translating or QC?)

Possible....but I guess I should also point out that there are clips of episode 7 out on youtube already. I'll probably wait for AiA/I-Z though.

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I believe they only reached the area where the 6 Galaxy fleet ships defolded from in episode 6:



I'm not too sure if they even know correctly where the M-GALAXY's position actually is due to the fold dislocation. Probably why they end up going back to the M-FRONTIER as in the episode 8 previews....

Originally Posted by DesertEase

I think I saw a NUNS on the side of his VF-27. Wasn't NUNS formed after Megaroad-1 leaving?

You mean this pic?



Shit, I don't even know what NUNS is....care to enlighten? The nature and design of their aircraft are very similar to the SMSs variable VF fighters so I'm guessing they're some what related. I'm guessing they're from another Macross Colony Fleet. I don't think they have anything to do with the MEGAROAD-01 though....

And yes, the pilot of the crimson fighter is obviously related to or somehow connected to Ranka. He uses that silver harmonica to play a few bars from Ranka's "lost" song, the song that is her only memory from her life with the 117th Fleet. He could be a survivor from that fleet too. Maybe.


And why is the introduction to episode 7 so screwy? It mentions that M-GALAXY was the 21st Mass Colonization Fleet and was launched several years before the M-FRONTIER. But in the opening shot we see that amongst the original colony fleets that left Earth in 2012,

the M-FRONTIER is clearly seen (right-hand side).

M-GALAXY isn't seen until after MEGAROAD-04 discovers and inhabits Eden:

(M-GALAXY is seen above Eden moving away from the planet).


Something screwy going on here......

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