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Originally Posted by Shin
That's not technically answering my question but I'll at least rest easy now knowing when I get a 360 I'll be up and running in no more than 4 minutes.
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Sorry in regards to it being pre installed, yes Microsoft should do, but of course I'd give it a month after the release of the update to make sure all exisiting old firmware 360's have gone through the market and for the shops to get the new firmware one's in stock. It doesn't take long for it to update once you have downloaded the firmware, it went smoothly without any crashes or errors, hopefully that will be the same for the upcomming update.
Although in saying all of that when I got my 360 3 days ago I did have to download an XBox update while my friend didn't which was probably because the store where I bought mine from probably had the older firmware one's in stock. But by September the 360's should have the new firmware I'd be somewhat surprised if they didn't.
All in all setting up my 360 took 5 minutes, the only problem was Zone Alarm and Xbox Live not playing nicely together which took an additional 15 minutes to fix after a call to Microsoft for what ports to open to get an open 'NAT' as I'd get disconnected from most games.
Also may I suggest Shin you buy your Xbox from GAME as they have a premium plus 2 games for £320 which means you get both games for around £25 each instead of £40. The problem is that they don't let you choose which games and there are like 6 combinations but you can always trade in one of the 2 games and get the premium plus one game for £295, plus who knows by September you may even see a price drop.
There's nowhere I can't reach.