Age Barriers in Romance

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This can be either/or broken families, poverty, lower social settings, illnesses, racial prejudice, etc.

I know someone that fits most all of these descriptions and they certainly weren't mature beyond their years. If anything they were less developed than many other people since their life had been so weird while growing up.

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Stop being a cunt, sass.

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Originally Posted by Sassafrass

I'm pretty sure I have a valid point, RR.

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But, with that said, I do also have to point out we may have different ideas of what maturity is. From what I can read out, you're from a western society, while mine is Asian. There are different culture influences working at a deeper level, so we may have perceptions based on separate ideologies concerned, especially when various religious and theological doctrines are ingrained within. Of course, there's also the fact that I'm Christian, which in itself might say something.

Agreed his Christian point is pretty stupid, but I don't see the problem with the rest of his post. Also, I imagine he isn't Catholic, as your child-fucking comment would seem to suggest.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Sassafrass

We're talking about dating within a certain age range. Not about philosophy of civilizations and customs.

So you're saying that people from eastern, latino, black, native american, and any other group you can think of have the same exact pressures and interpretations of what "mature" mean as WASPy New England?

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And I wasn't making a Catholic-exclusive statement. Religion generally has a pro-reproduction stance on their followers, in order to up the number of people following the path of that particular religion.

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Not about the philosophy of child-fucking 'cause the church needed more followers in the old days.

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Some religions allow for the marriage of underage children to an adult. That is, in my book, "child-fucking." Not that I was accusing the guy of doing this at all - or even being a part of a religion that condones this behavior - but that religion really shouldn't be a part of this thought process at all, not to mention the topic at hand.

I also imagine "child-fucking" was more acceptable in the old days because people didn't live as long. I don't imagine many women would have been able to bear kids into their mid/late 30s, so if they were going to pump out enough babies to help work on the farm they needed to get started pretty darned young (of course, the irony is how now girls are starting puberty younger than back then).

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Originally Posted by Sassafrass

Are you saying that my ideas of "maturity" are centered from "WASPy" New England?

I'm pretty sure I used the dictionary for my definition. Maybe it's me?

Where did you use the definition out of the dictionary?

You know, come to think of it, has anyone actually defined what "maturity" actually is? I mean, I understand how one can become "more mature," but how do you actually decide when someone is "mature enough?" If you ask someone that's 70 years old how mature someone should be before X do you really think it'll be the same answer as someone that's 30?

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No, you're right. But it's still endorsed by many religions. Hell, out here in "WASPy" New England, I had a friend who was Hindu who got married off at the ripe age of 15. She had to drop out of high school for that marriage.

My point, however, remains that religion has no place in a conversation about "maturity." While some cultures may not all be on the same page as to what "maturity" means, there is a general standard.

But, see, if someone's religion gives them strength and helps them do whatever a 'mature' person does, then shouldn't their religion be pertinent to their level of maturity?

Maybe maturity is like how only those that understand how wise they aren't are truly wise.

Originally Posted by LeHah

So you're saying some white college guy on the internet is able to make statements about WASPs from New England?

(See, I can play ball and sound like a conceited asshole too - but I'm not on staff, so its not tolerated.)

I'm a white college guy from the North East that grew up in a town where him being half-jew made him one of the most diverse students in his graduating class of 750. I think I have experience living with a bunch of WASPs.


crimsonsabre, some people just don't mesh with the more laid back lifestyle.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Well, to be fair, being a college guy going out with a highschooler is a bit more of a social stigma than being a senior going out with a freshman in high school.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Maybe your college friends were considerably more creepy than mine.

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What's funny is if we got someone in TQP complaining about how their parents are being too restrictive or something and they turn out to be 17 and still in high school, people wouldn't be calling them an adult.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?