Suicide

Not to bore you with the details but i have been close to suicide mainly because i sometimes cannot handle suppressing my anger which can only be satisfied by causing harm/death to a human which would in turns tear my moral judgement to pieces if i did that. Anyway, it is sometimes a traumatizing experience for those around you and the person themselves. I mean, i came close to taking my life on the cold tile of my kitchen floor in front of my mother as tears of fear ran down my eyes, i just held the knife in front of my heart until i turned around and realized that i was hurting my mother more than myself. I mean, in reality, suicide is just an easy way out of dealing with life issues and if everyone killed themselves when life seemed the worsted then there wouldn't be much of society left. To me i take it as, people who cut themselves need attention, people who kill themselves need help but sadly it is the other way around with most people and this causes some suicides to just go uncared. Some people even sink so low as to use someones suicide as a form of evidence against violent video games which is morally wrong since you have no idea why someone killed themselves if they are not alive to tell you and just having a suicide note doesn't always explain in full detail.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by DarkMageOzzie

I've had thoughts about suicide before but I never really plan to act on them. Part of the reason being I'm not religious so I don't really know whether or not to believe in an afterlife. So I'm worried that when we die, we just cease to exist and that thought scares me a lot more then anything in life can possibly bother me.

That is the problem, you cannot live in fear of death or death will consume your life. It is best to just not worry about what happens after because if there is an afterlife wouldn't that be bad because you were trying to get out of life in general? I mean, i have head of people who kill themselves out of religious reasons but if you are afraid of an afterlife it is not worth the effort to worry about it or not when contemplating suicide. In all honesty, most people don't think about what happens after suicide, they just hope it will be better than what they are living now. And most of the time most just want to get away so in turns life would be more torture.

To me i just advise against suicide, i mean, even if someone i don't know says they feel like killing themselves i can manage to persuade them to rethink about that choice. There is no point to it sometimes and people just don't like to wait things out.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Soluzar

That seems odd to me, because I desparately hope that there is no afterlife. I'm not talking about suicide, I just hope that when I die, that's the end. Please, let that be the end. If there is an afterlife in the Christian sense, then both sides seem just as bad. I don't want to go to hell, but I'm even more certain that I don't want to go to heaven. Heaven scares the living crap out of me. It's a reason to stay alive, if it really exists.

[offtopic]But what if Heaven is where you go when you die and hell is earth?[/offtopic]

I guess i cannot say that is a great reason to keep living but in reality yes, when someone kills themselves usually that means they want to totally end their existence, i mean, no one should kill themselves to believe that it would be better in an afterlife (if there was one), that to me seems, illogical. But suicide was never categorized as logical to begin with...

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Eleo

Once I advocated someone kill themself as means of freeing herself from her troubles. She was pissed, but I was only trying to help

I used to once do that, but it was in a suggesting way, i merely asked the person if they could help themselves to stop complaining their problems to me and just kill themselves if they cannot deal with the stress of life and for some reason cannot just wait for the problem to settle. In a way it feels good to help but on the downside, i think the person went along with what i said which isn't the best thing when you don't realize how influential your words can be to some people. Interesting concept though, to bad suicidal people are hard to come by where i live or else i could test my theory more to see if people that are suicidal take bad advice more seriously than people who are not on the verge of taking their own life.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by DarkMageOzzie

I thought you actually had to help the person kill themself for it to be assisted suicide. Otherwise everyone that gets mad and says "Oh go jump off a cliff" is committing assisted suicide.

Well, it is the same idea as not being apart of a crime but seeing it happen (unless you were victim) can make you a considered outside help. Saying "go jump off a cliff" can actually be used against you if someone from that family had heard you suggest that and then the person you 'were kidding around with' does it you can be charged for that...it is crazy i know but that is how it works sometimes :lolsign:

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Encephalon

I actually did this once too. When I was in college there was this guy I met in my psychology class (of all places) who I was doing a group project with. One night, we all met at my house and after we figured we'd had enough brain cramming I decided it was time to kill brain cells. I broke out a case of beers and we all just kicked back and talked shit for a few hours.

Pretty soon everyone started leaving except for this one guy who was already a couple beers past his limit and he wouldn't shut the fuck up about his girl problems. Not that I don't mind lending an ear to anyone who has problems with the significant other, but if you're going to ignore my advice and just say, "I want to fucking die, man. She LEFT AND I DESERVE TO BE DEAD" maybe you need a little fucking persuasion.

I went to my room, got my .22, walked out to the patio, took out the mag, loaded one bullet and handed him the gun. He had this look of utter disbelief on his face like I had asked him if I could light my farts or something. He just quietly got up, got in his car and drove home. Yes, he was drunk as fuck. No ma'am, he never came back to my house or spoke to me again. Good riddance.

okay, you win, your story is the best I've heard yet. [Now the rest of you all go kill yourself s]. I am surprised you would only load one bullet, if he was drunk and missed, you could just easily say, try again and let him shoot himself a second time. If he missed then i would just say it is a lost cause and forget about him.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Encephalon

To be quite fair, I was fucking wasted too. I only loaded one bullet because I figured that if he actually took the gun and shot at ME, he'd only clip me with a small caliber. It would hurt, but it doesn't have the killing power unless he put it to his head and painted my fence with his brains.

Oh, true...but at least being drunk helps with the pain! I mean, by the time it actually should hurt, you would be so wasted you would probably just go unconscious until someone called the police or you awoke 3 hours later laying in a pool of your own blood...

FELIPE NO