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Old Jul 4, 2006, 08:36 AM Local time: Jul 4, 2006, 05:36 AM #1 of 35
To be honest, I haven't seen the Ang Lee movie. I do think it's a great thing though that people actually care enough about the comic book source material for this to even possibly even happen. Think back to Batman Forever and Batman & Robin. I think it's a great thing for comic book movies and comics in general that this sort of attention is being paid to the source material.

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Old Jul 4, 2006, 08:50 AM Local time: Jul 4, 2006, 05:50 AM #2 of 35
Oh sure, a scene for scene exact reproduction of a comic book (or novel or short story) would be pretty boring, and not to mention extremely long. Plus, film is a different media—you need to adapt the concept.

But this is a far cry from something like Batman Forever. Oh lordy.

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Old Jul 4, 2006, 09:23 AM Local time: Jul 4, 2006, 06:23 AM #3 of 35
Batman Forever as well. Although I didn't want to bring it up...

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jul 4, 2006, 09:40 AM Local time: Jul 4, 2006, 06:40 AM #4 of 35
Originally Posted by LeHah
Usually to chide Lucasfilm's idiotic "levels of canon" bullshit. Yes, I talk about it but only as far as that the films, movie novelizations and radio dramas are the only canon in existence. Everything else is just fapping for fanboys.
What. That makes no sense. The radio dramas? They are fantastic and all—in fact I have the scripts to them and recordings (on cassette though) sitting on the shelf next to me—but I don't see how they're in any way more cannon than anything else produced not by Lucas.

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What about Sin City?
Well, Sin City had the original artist & writer (Frank Miller) co-directing. There isn't a whole lot you can argue in terms of artistic intent there.

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Old Jul 4, 2006, 09:47 AM Local time: Jul 4, 2006, 06:47 AM #5 of 35
Originally Posted by LeHah
The radio dramas were personally sanctioned by Lucas when the movies first came out. They handed Brian Daily the original scripts for him to "translate" into radio dramas (forcing him to write both expanded scenes and exposition). Hence - they're completely canon.

EDIT: By Radio Dramas, I mean the ones based on the original trilogy, not the Jedi Knight/Dark Empire/etc series
Right, I was talking about the Brian Daley ones. If you'll remember though the ROTJ Radio Drama didn't come out until 1996.

"Personally sanctioned by Lucas." What? How is that any different from the status of the original Timothy Zahn trilogy?

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jul 4, 2006, 10:01 AM Local time: Jul 4, 2006, 07:01 AM #6 of 35
Last post by me in this microthread:

I was under the impression that Lucasfilm granted licenses to each book when the story idea was pitched to them. If they didn't like the story ("We kill everyone and introduce brand new characters named Tidus, Squall and Cloud"), they could reject it.

I see your point about the Daley scripts being written from the original screenplays, but that still doesn't mean they are cannon the same way the movie is. From what you're saying, NPR/Daley had creative control, not Lucas, which, IMHO, at least, excludes it from a "strict" definition of cannon.

If LeHah wants to continue this, can we get a split?

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Old Jul 4, 2006, 10:24 AM Local time: Jul 4, 2006, 07:24 AM #7 of 35
To get back on topic, I would actually like to see a re-do of The Hulk. It would be interesting to see how audiences would respond to it coming out so soon, and it would be especially interesting if deviated hugely from Ang Lee's version (not necessarily by sticking closer to the comics, but that's one possibility).

From what I remember about the trailers, my main gripe was the hugeness of The Hulk. I'm not 100% familiar with it, but doesn't the hulk only become slightly bigger than the average human when he transforms (which is how he's still able to wear the same pants)?

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