What are you doing against Global Warming

Regardless of whether or not you "believe in" Global Warming (which is really asking whether or not you believe in SCIENCE), recycling and saving energy and such are all good ideas:

Fossil fuels are a limited resource. No amount of sticking your head in the sand (hur hur) will change that. The fact is there aren't any renewable sources of energy right now that look like they're able to meet the energy demands of our global economy. Conserving energy is just a smart thing to do, in light of that.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Gechmir

I beg to differ.

Request denied, in adequate information.

C'mon Gech.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Gechmir

What do you want me to say? I've already attacked the issue on a fuckload of fronts. It's hardly an argument of believe in science or not. It's an amalgam of politics and science, creating a source for bias in research. I've read journals stating warming is happening and I've seen others that state it is NOT happening, making references to doctored data which was used to fuel the debate on the warming side of the aisle.

I'm sure the next line would be "find me a link to one". Well that ain't gonna happen. They're in the library stacks back at A&M, pertaining to masters and PhD research.

Inadequate information? Hey, I've got an idea -- read the thread =V Or peruse older global warming topics. I've said my piece in those on the science end of things. If you want, I'll start playing the record alllllll over again.

I've got access to libraries that would have that same information. Care to cite some papers?

I'm not saying this to be a dick and challenge you, I'm just curious. And no, I didn't read the thread in depth, you're right. I skimmed over it but didn't see any links or anything, so I assumed it was all just talk.

Seriously though, cite some journals. I'll go look them up. Drop your citations or leave the thread forever.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Honestly, I challenge someone to present an argument against energy conservation and researching of renewable energy. Seriously. Try me.

The question of Global Warming is best left to environmental scientists, and all of the literature I've read on the subject (most of it in general textbooks, not papers since that's not my area of expertise) suggests that humans are contributing to changes in our environment, many of which could have detrimental affects to our civilization (rising sea levels are a danger to coastal cities, for example).

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by whinehurst

ramoth, nobody's making an argument against energy conservation and renewable energy. we're not Eco-Villains. We're just saying this doom-and-gloom attitude about the planet withering away if we don't act fast is bullshit.

and if you're going to demand people present solid evidence of their perspective, you gotta ante up first. that's how people make intelligent arguments.

But the "doom & gloom the planet is dying lol" attitude is not even what I'm talking about. Oil is a limited resource -- we only have so much, and we will eventually run out. Taking every step you can to conserve oil and switch to something else just makes sense, and anyone who doesn't see doing that as an urgent priority is vastly short sighted.

It's not the planet that's going to wither away if we fail to act now to reduce our dependence upon oil, it's civilization! As an engineer, this is the only course of action that makes a lick of sense to me. Anything else smacks of irresponsibility.

Also, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. It is a fairly widely accepted opinion that global warming and the activities of mankind are linked. I submit the existence of this very thread as evidence of that. If Gechmir is claiming otherwise he needs to ante up, not me.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Thank you, Gechmir. I'll look through those soon, it's quite a lot of text!

Watts, I don't quite understand your position and how it relates to energy policy. I understand you seem to enjoy pissing in the wind, which I was honestly better off not knowing.

Perhaps I'm just dense, but you veered off into Analogy Land so quickly I lost track of what you were trying to say.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?