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Religion: What it means to you
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Old Jul 2, 2006, 05:56 PM Local time: Jul 2, 2006, 04:56 PM #1 of 834
I use to like reading this thread, so I'll post, maybe it will come back... (probably not, oh well),
I'm a lifetime Christian due to lack of evidence (I said it right, I don't think atheists have enough evidence to prove there is no God). Catholic specifically.

It takes so long to think about this stuff. It would be so much easier if the preacher started by discussing how God has to exist. Especially in the Catholic church where they have all of the traditions (genuflecting/sign of cross/thumb to the forhead, lips, and heart/etc...). Most preachers don't even explain what each means, you just do them. If you have enough interest, you'll probably read a "Catholics for dummies" book (or a more formal one) to get things straightened out.

Anyway, religion means alot to me now (but not a really lot). Hopefully, it will mean more later.

Party on!

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Jul 3, 2006, 07:42 AM Local time: Jul 3, 2006, 06:42 AM #2 of 834
Ya, either way you're worried :|.... lol

There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Old Jul 11, 2006, 11:42 PM Local time: Jul 11, 2006, 10:42 PM #3 of 834
Originally Posted by sassafrass
Please, please, PLEASE don't turn this into a shit-flinging contest? PLEASE?
(from the first page)

Maybe we should start a thread "On the Existence of God" and work our way up to these issues...

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jul 12, 2006, 10:39 PM Local time: Jul 12, 2006, 09:39 PM #4 of 834
According to Philosophy:
1.)"It is always morally wrong to deliberatly (knowingly and willingly) kill (force death upon by an act of violence) an innocent (not deserving of death - has done nothing to justify being killed) person."

2.)"An unborn (developing) human being (product of human conception) is an innocent person"

<!--Argument for the 2nd statement-->
So, is a fetus a person?
Ok,
Adult,
Teenager,
Child,
Infant,
Fetus,
-these are all stages of development of ONE entity.

<!--Conclusion-->
So, if we can argue that the deliberate killing of an innocent person is ALWAYS wrong, and that a fetus is ALWAYs a person, then abortion is ALWAYS morally wrong.

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Old Jul 13, 2006, 07:40 AM Local time: Jul 13, 2006, 06:40 AM #5 of 834
Right, but according to the dictionary, a person is a "human body." Not a "human body ONLY with a consciousness."

I guess these arguments could really go on forever.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jul 16, 2006, 10:58 PM Local time: Jul 16, 2006, 09:58 PM #6 of 834
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Well by that line of logic you can say that a dead human is a "person." The argument mainly revolves around the idea of when souls or consciousness enters the human body, because without a soul or consciousness, what would it mean to be a person? Nothing.
You would think, that after thousands of hours of debate, people (namely philos. scien. etc.) would come to a conclusion, but I don't think that's possible.
Crazy world!

Originally Posted by Kensaki
Seriously guys learn to read first post and make another thread for the debate. This is not what the thread is for obviously.

Anyhow I would say I am a gnostic that don't believe any force debscribed in human religion started all this. This being this reality coming from nothing.
What would we call the thread? FallDragon v. Shadowlink?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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