Products of Creation Science

Originally Posted by LordsSword

I also believe in a God that can make 10 million year old rocks in a fraction of the time.

And why would God create 10 million (and older) year old rocks, exactly?

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by LordsSword

Please pardon the refrence but I feel it to helpful in my explanation.
Isaiah 55:9
"As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.

It is not clear as to what brand new matter is like to us. Let alone a brand new Earth.
Consider for a moment that it may not be helpful to the support of life. I think radioactive decay is the most poplular dating method. Imagine the radiation levels of the early earth.
The the term God helps us imagine an entity that has complete mastery of all aspects of reality, not just of what we we can measure.
A God could wind the clock forward on matter for the purpose of our current state of comfort.
Consider again the application of pursuing this idea. Toxic waste could be "aged" to meet safety requirements. Stockpiles of nuclear waste processed for some other purpose.



You have done all that I asked, thanks.

Your explanation has two problems.

First, why would God need to create old rocks when he could just let nature take its course? You seem to be suggesting that God does not exist outside of time, which is odd since the Bible indicates the opposite ("With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day", 2 Peter 3:8).

Second, why would God create a system of nature only to contradict it right away? And I do mean right away, because according to the strict reading of the Bible, God created the universe and the Earth all in a matter of days. Your explanation suggests that God made a system and then right afterwards went, "Oh well, better just make the Earth differently cause that isn't gonna work too well for my Saturday deadline." This suggests poor planning on God's part, hardly what I'd expect of an omniscient being.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by LordsSword

"Old rocks" are made for the purpose of our current environment which He wanted from the beginning.

You didn't actually answer my question. See below for why that is.

Originally Posted by LordsSword

Wouldnt God see the point in creating a thing correctly in the first place.

One would think so, yet according to your beliefs God created the universe and all of its systems, including radioactive decay, and then in his infinite wisdom contradicted the system he had just developed. What I don't understand, and what you have yet to clearly answer (despite your best efforts to explain it so I can understand) is why God wouldn't just let the natural laws he had just developed create the Earth, instead of just blinking it all into existence.

Family Guy wasn't far off the mark when it compared the traditional Christian notion of God to an episode of I Dream of Jeannie.

Originally Posted by LordsSword

What about the application I put forward? I know its a tough one to wrap ones mind around but I demonstrated how a person uses the creation point of view to forward research. Its not the first time science has had help from religious sources.

I'm sure Galileo is turning in his grave at those words.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by LordsSword

God makes a point from time to time to show how powerful He is. I see it as a teaching tool to help us stretch our minds outside the box of uniformitarianism.

In other words, God's an all-powerful, ego-maniac who will arbitrarily violate his own laws of nature just to make a point of how awesome he is. I don't see how God violating nature expands anyone's perspective, but I think I have a pretty clear picture now of the sort of God you believe in.

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I know people get angry with me and the supporters of this subject because deep down there is something unsettled that points to a God. Its pulling now drawing us together, the ultimate end of creation science is to bring people to the acceptance of what they already know.

Proclaiming your argument valid doesn't make it so.

The ultimate end of creation "science" is to try to pretend that God violating natural laws to serve his ego somehow is a logical way to manage a universe.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?