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The Middle East spirals out of control!
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Nehmi
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Old Jul 15, 2006, 07:13 PM Local time: Jul 15, 2006, 07:13 PM #1 of 270
Its nice to consider if something is morally wrong or not, but if you keep quiet about it, who's gonna point out the huge elephant in the room? Really there is an elephant, but according to the government, there is none. Something like 1984 where if you believe you're flying and I believe you're flying, then you are flying... even if it objectively is false. Even if the people in the USA were disgusted by their government's action, they sit in the corner twiddling their thumbs... perhaps watching some good'ole television. Most people don't even care though, or they simply go along with anything the government or media will present to them. Its a great illusion how the media presents stories and how the government words what they say, and works great in trapping people who somewhat care about what's going on in the world.

Another great tactic is diversion, divide & conquer. Republican/Democrat, abortion/anti-abortion, one sports team/another freaking sports team. Morals like to go out the window when you are trying to win, and also promote a distrust between people. Who can speak their morals when the country is constantly divided between issues? As Styphon said, any small group that is likely to form will be neutralized. So, just because there is a elephant in the room doesn't mean there is. If you are forced to hold your tongue, or no one will listen to you, that elephant doesn't exist at all.


As for Israel/Lebanon, I don't think its a matter of IF Lebanon wants to stop Hizbollah, but really a matter of CAN they stop them. It is an unfortunate consequence that all parties involved are being so stubborn and pretty stupid. Israel has traded captives for the release of prisoners before, but they seem completely unwilling now. Two years ago they did it, and even further back it has occured, so this isn't some sort of new event that no one could have expected. Hizbollah probably doesn't know what to do after Israel said they would not barter for the prisoners. Either way, the stubborness is overwelming... this conflict is so pointless and could have been stopped instantly had either side REALLY wanted to avoid a war. Now that it has gone on this long however, I don't see either Israel or Hizbollah letting up.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
Nehmi
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Old Jul 29, 2006, 04:06 PM Local time: Jul 29, 2006, 04:06 PM #2 of 270
I hate to break it to you, but Hezbollah never entered Israeli territory to kidnap the soldiers, they were in Lebanon.

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The Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah movement announced on Wednesday that its guerrillas have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. "Implementing our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli jails, our strugglers have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon," a statement by Hezbollah said. "The two soldiers have already been moved to a safe place," it added. The Lebanese police said that the two soldiers were captured as they "infiltrated" into the town of Aitaa al-Chaab inside the Lebanese border.
Hindustan Times (Original not found anymore heh, I wonder why.)


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The Lebanese Hezbollah movement announced Wednesday the arrest of two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. Lebanese police said that the two soldiers were arrested as they entered the town of Aitaa al-Chaab inside the Lebanese border. Israeli aircraft were active in the air over southern Lebanon, police said, with jets bombing roads leading to the market town of Nabatiyeh, 60 kilometers south of Beirut.
Bahrain News Agency


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In the afternoon, the scene changed in the streets of southern Lebanon, which was the target of 32 Israeli raids that mainly targeted areas near the area where the two soldiers were captured in Aita al Chaab, close to the border with Israel.
news.monstersandcritics.com


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It all started on July 12 when Israel troops were ambushed on Lebanon's side of the border with Israel. Hezbollah, which commands the Lebanese south, immediately seized on their crossing. They arrested two Israeli soldiers, killed eight Israelis and wounded over 20 in attacks inside Israeli territory.
Asian Times

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EDIT:

Haha, oh this amuses me. The entire post I was going against is gone. ;_;

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Last edited by Nehmi; Jul 29, 2006 at 04:37 PM. Reason: Automerged additional post.
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