[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by SOLDIER

In your opinion, what do you think the odds are that they'll reconsider and lower that price before launch? November is still far away, so it's possible.

The sad truth is that if you plan to wait out for the price to drop, it won't be for a long while, and certainly not before MGS4.

I honestly don't know anymore. Maybe if Nintendo prices Wii REALLY aggressively (like $150 or something) and Sony gets A LOT of backlash, they might cut it a bit. Who knows though. I thought PSP's price would have been sliced by now, but all we got so far is just a package with less stuff in it. Tough call.

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Originally Posted by Mercury

Really, I’m not an expert on this, I don’t work in any of those fields, I’m only noticing what’s happening from the customer point of view (both on the gaming and HT side), and my best guess is that not only Sony will sell PS3s like crazy at $600, but also it's likely that they will probably have a shortage of supply like the Microsoft do...

Maybe someone working in the video-gaming field could analyse the "evolving gaming market" a little further (Cetra?).

Companies are suppose to have all sorts of "informed" people that conduct "research" to make sure wrong products/marketing/prices/etc. don't make it out the door. However, for some reason, even with these guru-advisors, companies still fuck up. That's why things like this happen:












I'm not suggesting that the PS3's the next nGage. My point is that enough people within Nokia, despite all the research and seasoned professionals, thought that the nGage (along with the stupid "side talking") was a good idea. Good companies make stupid and bad decisions all the time.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Stealth

Except Sony isn't Nokia, and is still the current industry leader, despite last night's showing.

As were Sega and Nintendo at some point in the past. Just because you're on top, it doesn't mean that you can't slip off and fall if you mess up.

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Originally Posted by Stealth

Nice job missing the Point. When was Nokia the industry leader in hand helds. Oh right never.

Yeah, way to call out on your own mistake. Nokia may have never been on top, but Sega and Nintendo definately were at the very top at some point, and now, well, Sega's just...sad. And Nintendo's in close competition trying to regain it's spot. How did you not catch this when I used it as an example?:eyebrow:

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Stealth

Alright, you're just not gonna get it until I explain your shitty parallelism between NOKIA, and SONY.

SONY knows just a tad more on how to run a gaming division than fucking Nokia.

Was it that hard to understand?

Wow. If you're gonna create posts that exude dry, cynical sarcasm, have the decency to make sure they're not idiotic. I tried to point out to you that my post that "missed the point" was comparing Sony to Nintendo and Sega, and yet you still come to me with this "ZOMG! SONY IS NOT NOKIAAAA !!!111!!" wtf?

Forget Nokia for a second. Nintendo and Sega (actual videogame companies) were at some point in the past, at the very top of this industry. Today however, they're far from being the domineers of the business. Suggesting that just because Sony is at the very top now, it doesn't mean that they can't fall off to the bottom of the chain if they make enough stupid decisions like pricing a videogaming console $600.

I hope you stopped getting your nipples tied in a knot and understood what I meant now that I broke it down for you to the lowest denominator.

I love it when dense people act arrogant. =/

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by DragoonKain

I'm not saying nobody that age plays games, but polls say 95% of gamers are men, and combine that with a lady in her 40s being a gamer? It happens, but it's VERY VERY rare. Less than 1% of gamers are probably 40+ women.

But all you have to do is look at it logically. I say the reason online polls have a high percentage of gamers in the 25-35 range, is because I'd say that kids 15-20 don't vote in polls very often. Kids in their teens just want to game, they aren't into interacting online as much, but become moreso when they get older.

Plus it's no secret that the older you get the less and less time you have to game. I don't need polls and the like. I'm just looking at it with common sense.

Not to mention that polls are garbage. They're junk numbers that can easily be manipulated to "prove" your point no matter how far off you are from the facts.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Freddy Krueger

Well bestbuy does so problem solved

This is true but it's still kind of annoying. It's like you already know that your brand new, $600 console's gonna break. So right from the get go, you're already spending extra money for protection and acknowledging the fact that at some point you're gonna have to bring it in/exchange it/wait for a new one/etc.

You wouldn't have to go through all of that in the first place if the console does what it's suppose to: Work properly for a good couple of years or so.

I still think you're better off if you wait a year or so. You bypass this entire issue, get a more stable unit for a cheaper price, & have a larger library (of also cheaper games) to select from. (Hell, by then, we might even know who comes out on top with this HD-DVD vs. Blue-ray war)

I still have plenty of PS2 games that I haven't started yet. Then there's Wii at launch. I could easily hold out for a year.

Something is unclear to me about the HDD. Is it detachable? It'd be really convenient for playing your saved games at a friend's place if the HDD can easily snap in and out of it's place.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I wonder what'll happen to PS3's price if HD-DVD comes out on top and blue-ray goes down the path of Sony's mini-disks and UMD movies...

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Cetra

Why do people continue to make this comparison like Blu-Ray is a Sony propitiatory format. I hope you realize Sony doesn't own Blu-Ray. They are just one of the 12 major companies that helped develop the technology and the standards.

They were the first two examples that came to mind. Heck you can compare them to Beta tapes if it'd make you feel better. (That wasn't Sony's was it?). Anyway, it doesn't matter. The point is, it'd be interesting to see what happens to the PS3 and how Sony would market it, if Blue-ray ends up not being the standard.

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist

I took it from a gaming news site, The Magic Box which said that it came from a poll.

I doubt this is an acurate survey of what was most impressive at E3. I understand not seeing much Microsoft love on there considering that Xbox is still 3rd in terms of popularity over there. However, it'd most probebly be a lot more evenly split between Sony and Nintendo had it been a thorough survey.

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Originally Posted by Neogin

Kutaragi does have a point. Technically, you get a cheap Blu-Ray player, with the option to play thousands of games.

See, that's what gets me. What if I'm not interested in the damn blu-ray player? I'm not making the jump to HD anytime soon. I want a PS3 for the FFXIII's and MGS4's. I guess it's a decent deal for someone interested in both components. For the likes of me however, it's a rip-off. As I've said before, I think the PS3 will be one of those cosoles that'll be absolutely amazing when you purchase it later in it's life-span as opposed to on launch date.

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Originally Posted by RacinReaver

Maybe Sony will come out with some sort of two-tiered system for online gaming. A free one with absolute shit servers and one you pay $5 a month for in order to get better service.

Does anyone remember way back when Kali used to do a service like that? They were a pay to access battle.net style network that served an assload of games.

Honestly so long as whatever they set up allows you to actually play your games online versus other actual human players, I'll be fine. All that extra online community, e-shop, score rankings, video/voice chat, myspace-esque stuff seems like extra fluff. They're certainly nice to have but not really needed.

Anyway, seems like the backlash just keeps on rolling...

and rolling...

and...rolling?

...?

How the hell will analog A/V or Component cables be able to display a full, HD, 1080p picture? I'll only believe this, when I see it.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Omnislash124

While 1080p is possible with the Component Video, You're still gettin ripped from Sony somewhat because the HDMI outdoes it at higher resolutions.....

Yeah all the "1080p" pictures that I've seen via Component cables have seemed kind of crippled when put right next TVs showing the same footage with DVI or HDMI cables...

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Cetra

Uh a 1080p picture does not offer enough bandwidth to saturate a analog connection. 1080p pictures are only downscaled though non-HDMI connections if there is some type of ACSS protection on the data stream. This encryption is employed though the software, though it looks like movie companies don't even plan on making use of ACSS protection until at least 2010, if ever due to many HDTVs being sold today without HDMI inputs.

This HDMI issue is blow way out of perspective by people that don't even understand what HDMI is. HDMI does not offer higher resolutions compared to analog connections and the picture quality difference between component and HDMI is minimal to non-existent unless you are using a TV with really shit Digital-Analog converter circuitry.

Are you saying that, sans the ACSS/HDCP issue, both Component and HDMI cables will be able to truly display an identical 1080p picture? Because working at BestBuy, I've seen plenty of side by side comparisons on both high-end LCD and plasma TVs where that wasn't the case.

P.S.

I'm not trying to be sarcastic here or challanging your statements. I'm genuinly asking because I've never seen an "HD" picture running through Component that truly looked as good as one off of HDMI.

FELIPE NO

Oh, hello Apple logo!

Wonder what that's all about...

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Originally Posted by Kilroy

No, that's a black PS3. I can see this is somehow confusing, though...

Sigh... look. I know the PS3 is freaking HUGE but just look carefully. Load the page again, and for a split second, the apple logo appears then quickly vanishes. It's smack in the middle of the PS3 logo and the controler. You try it too infernal, you'll see it.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by SOLDIER

By all means, be a dick. Then maybe we'll get something like this again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMpWPnCd0ro

"Get back to Hot Topic you bitch!"

AWSOME!

Seriously, line heckling is idiotic. How are you any better than the "no life losers in line" when you resort to messing with them for amusement? You have nothing else happening? That bored?


Anyway, with all the lines formed for the pre-orders, I wonder what the lines for the actual launch are gonna be like. Hectic times are definately coming up.

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