[DS] The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass

This is the first I've heard about it. This is taken from the keynotes Iwata presented today:

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11:29: Iwata takes the stage. There's one more new adventure for you today: The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass for Nintendo DS. Short clip plays: cel-shaded-style graphics. Top screen: mostly maps. Action is on the lower screen. Use touch screen to draw things -- transitioning the bottom screen input to the top. Launches later this year -- from Aonuma and team (makers of Wind Waker).

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/697/697882p1.html

Videos: http://ds.ign.com/articles/697/697930p1.html

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After checking a couple times I finally noticed the fairy saying "Look" a couple times...

-_-

It IS coming out this year (2 games in 1 year... hopefully!), the NEW Mario Brothers, Hunters... to add to my collection of DS games, my DS is finally getting a ton of action.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Uhhh... CD-i? Those 3 were the worst, fortunately, they're not considered official due to dropped development. I wish WW didn't have 3-4 hours of sailing at the end and little fighting.

LTTP remake would kick some serious ass.

I'm very agreeing today.

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Originally Posted by Lukage

Oracle of Seasons. Bleh. Sucked. WW was good!

Confession: never played the Oracle series... it just never pulled me in enough.

I never thought about it, but they originally talked about a WW sequel a while back and the idea seemed to disappear... looks like this is it!

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Uhhh, do you know what a dungeon crawler is? Having a lot of dungeons doesn't constitute a dungeon crawler, but a common trait shared by most is that the dungeons generate randomly. From what I saw it was a pretty good assumption, and I hope it isn't true

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by HostileCreation

Oh, in that case the assumption is completely ridiculous and shouldn't even be considered.
Shame on you. :P

(Seriously, that would never happen in a Zelda game, and I don't know why anyone would think that looking at the trailer)

Would never? Try has already. Four Swords GBA.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Dungeon Crawlers can easily be well-designed depending on how well they have the generations, but looking at that trailer, it is possible that it is. I saw nothing that told me that those dungeon layouts were absolutely set in stone. Stop assuming. Stop saying obviously. These games can have triggers that are in the shape of puzzles. It could be pre-laid out, however, it could still be a crawler.

You don't know, so don't try to pretend you do. I don't want it to be a dungeon crawler, I really don't, but what we've been shown could prove to be one.

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Originally Posted by HostileCreation

Okay, well you can go on being a worry-wart. We'll see who comes out right when the game is released (hint: it'll be me).

I've also been informed that the Four Swords GBA game didn't have randomly generated dungeons. Can't say if that's true, but I trust the opinions of the (two) people who told me above yours. No offense, I just don't know you.

And no, I don't know for sure. But I've played the original Zelda, Zelda II, A Link to the Past, Link's Awakening, Ocarina of Time, Oracle of Ages, Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, Four Swords (GC), and the Minish Cap, and NONE of those were dungeon crawlers (excludig, MAYBE, Zelda II, which wasn't all that great anyway), so that may serve as some sort of indication as to what this game might be.

Well you can choose to be misinformed: you have that right. You're right about the other games: they aren't dungeon crawlers (and Zelda 2 wasn't one). I'll still get the game when it comes out, I'm just saying to not assume anything. Another piece of advice: no matter how much you type, you're failing to disprove the point I'm making about assumptions. It may or may not be a dungeon crawler... I don't know, but it certainly CAN BE one.

PS - Zelda 2 kicked, many people were simply terrible at it.

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It may or may not be a dungeon crawler... I don't know, but it certainly CAN BE one.

It's called reading: try it.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I never take reviews at face value, since I look extremely deep into games. I, for one, hated Battlefield 2 because it felt so much like the earlier games and felt a lagging engine with updated graphics and resolution, but I very much enjoyed most of Four Swords Adventures.

I won't dwell on the dungeon crawler part, my point was you can't say for sure one way or another, and that is what I meant in the quote RAB made earlier. Dropping that argument, because it ended up getting far bigger than I thought it would, although RAB made a strong point about the series' well-crafter dungeons, and rest assured I am hoping for those to be here as well.

I also remember the early videos for Twilight Princess, and in particular, the lifeless towns that felt a decade old in style. I'm sure E3 will show us they've fixed that problem. In this video, the big thing I hope the dungeons don't end up being are tight corridors to navigate all the times connecting rooms with puzzles: the entire atmosphere needs to be there, and it is in all Zelda games.

Side note: FSA didn't receive bad reviews, it was still well above average. I just wished it had a real adventure aspect... it was a quest, but a quest that started over too many times.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I'm willing to bet at this point people like the Zelda franchise more and it's one the fans want to see more success in. We don't see Link in nearly as many games as Mario, and when we do, we really want them to be good. That's not to say that Zelda is bigger than Mario, because it isn't by a LONG shot, Nintendo's aware how much people like the franchise.

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