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[Multiplatform] Grand Theft Auto IV. Not as much fun as shooting real Albanians
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Diversion
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Old Apr 26, 2008, 12:46 AM #1 of 412
I just read through the review, and though many are willing to dismiss reviewers for doing their job, I want to quote the very last paragraph from IGN's review, which in my opinion, helps justify such a rating (which I was extremely skeptical about at first):

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A "10" is not a score we give out very often. In fact, the last time we gave a 10 to a console game was Soul Calibur in 1999. A 10 doesn't mean a game is perfect -- it means a game is pushing boundaries, expanding a genre, and doing many things to a level so far above and beyond its competitors that they overshadows any flaws. Certainly, GTA IV has some issues, the most noticeable being the occasional flaw in the cover system, but there are many more pieces of GTA IV that are better than anything I've seen from a game in the past decade. We don't give 10s often -- just to games that merit the score.
I challenge you to take the 10-15 minutes to read the review. Seriously, see why they rated it that way. I'm sorry Deni, but based on what you said, it's far too transparent that you looked at the score and simply dismissed it completely. I'm not dismissing the possibility or likelihood of exaggeration, but after reading the review, I'm going to give the game its chance without thinking back on any judgments from previous titles.

If my experiences quell my prejudice towards the game, then I am more than happy to let Rockstar Games prove me wrong.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Apr 26, 2008, 05:40 PM 1 #2 of 412
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And if you completely wipe the memory of past incarnations of something before you see it, I congratulate you on your Goldfish like memory.
My problems with San Andreas were with the story and framerate: the framerate issue has already been addressed, and the story is a problem that's very easy to look past when dealing with an entirely different plot (and a lot more development time).

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Rockstar's never shown the slightest inclination towards writing (see? This is that previous exposure thing we covered earlier) and now they should be up for best writing noms?
Maybe it's exaggerated, but if it was a problem before and Rockstar realizes this, they can reach into that endless pocketbook of theirs to fix something people considered an issue? I tell ya, I'd be upset if Rockstar didn't make an attempt to better themselves if people are outspoken about the story of the game... is it possible they listened and took the time to make it better? Seems like a reasonable move for a company if you ask me.

I'm not going to quote the entire post since they revolve around innovation and my understanding: one of the important points the reviewer had brought up were that these are issues fixed from previous incarnations of the game, not entirely new concepts (in regards to your Goldeneye comment). Late? If people want to think that, but gamers looking to play IV will likely have a level of satisfaction knowing those issues are a thing of the past.

Nonetheless, the point I made that you quoted:

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I'm going to give the game its chance
...and the half that you didn't quote:

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If my experiences quell my prejudice towards the game, then I am more than happy to let Rockstar Games prove me wrong.
...was that the game deserves its chance that you are more than happy to pigeonhole. IGN would be taking a huge risk to slap a 10 on a game that didn't merit it. At worst, the game would be a 9.5-9.7 that's exaggerated, perhaps? Anything below that would be noticeable and hurt the company's credibility. Most of the issues brought up by the reviewer were new specifics about the game that the public wants to hear about, however mundane it may seem to mention. As far as I'm concerned, the game is worth risking the $63.59.

Seems you did take the time to read the review when put on the spot, and the careful time spent crafting your arguments still don't prove why you seem to have such a disdain that you apparently won't even give the game a chance (not sure on that one, that's entirely you, man)? Like I said, I had problems with the old ones, and because of that I still maintain a level of skepticism. Rest assured: I want Rockstar to deliver and hope they do. This review won't do that until the game is in my hands, but at least it's giving me hope.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Last edited by Diversion; Apr 26, 2008 at 05:47 PM.
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