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Ripping in FLAC with my laptop
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Old Aug 11, 2008, 10:31 AM Local time: Aug 11, 2008, 04:31 PM #1 of 15
Does nobody think what I think? Copy protection...

I also have the Narnia score, the limited edition one, dunno if it has a CP though. I can try a rip this evening if that would help you Thalin. However it played back fine with digital extraction on my LG drive, hmm...

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Old Aug 11, 2008, 05:02 PM Local time: Aug 11, 2008, 11:02 PM #2 of 15
Hmm, I have a unix OS running, so I'm not affected by these funny tools (I even don't have any automounting/autorunning activated).
After the Sony rootkit affair people should now better though. If someone with a little information about current activities in the record industry has still activated autorun features... well, he deserves to be rootkitted

Anyway, I was more thinking about manipulated TOC stuff, bad sectors, etc.
I have a Vanessa Mae album that is incredibly hard to rip because it desyncs all the time. Playing it back with digital extraction is impossible in real-time, because the drive is constantly seeking to keep finding the correct sector. That's a real killer CD, use it thrice on your brand-new drive and it makes it age fast-forward *g*

I think I did use EAC to rip it some time ago (I legally own it, and I'm really not into breaking my hardware so I found it best to create a FLAC rip which I could play back without trouble). But I did it with burst mode and made multiple runs, checking the CRCs I got after each extraction run. They were all identical, so I assume that the probability of non-detected errors is quite low.

When dealing with these types of discs there is always some way to rip them cleanly. Either with EAC (for me the preferred method), or using some other tool like IsoBuster or even CloneCD.
Also you might wanna have an archive of old EAC versions on your system. Some time ago EAC had support for TOC reconstruction and some other neat features, which made it good for breaking the popular audio CD copy protections. However the author got in trouble with the german authorities (we have quite some legal trouble here in Germany, concerning circumvention of copy protection...) and had to remove the functionality from the program again.
Also he had to remove the "bad" versions from his site. But as always there is a mirror on the net

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liquid

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Old Aug 12, 2008, 04:52 PM Local time: Aug 12, 2008, 10:52 PM #3 of 15
It's funny how if you forget to hold shift for like a split second during it's load it goes back to a crazy rip. You have to hold it literally the second the tray closes. Pesky autorun, or whatever it was.
You should just disable it.

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Old Aug 17, 2008, 02:12 PM Local time: Aug 17, 2008, 08:12 PM #4 of 15
Might decrease quality. I suggest an MP3 rip right from the CD.
Nonsense

I dunno if it's possible to directly convert FLAC to mp3, but I'd recommend converting FLAC > WAV > mp3 instead.
That's only a technical issue. Internally every transcoder first decompressed FLAC to the original waveform and then feeds it into the output encoded (LAME in this case).
The foobar2000 transcoding engine can do this on one step, however internally.... (see above).

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