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Old Feb 27, 2008, 03:51 PM Local time: Feb 27, 2008, 09:51 PM 1 #1 of 13
Read the Wikipedia articles about TCP/IP, NAT (network address translation) and port forwarding (and probably a few more).
Don't believe self-proclaimed computer experts, there is a lot of bullshit on the net and these people can't differentiate between true and false statements.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Feb 27, 2008, 04:22 PM Local time: Feb 27, 2008, 10:22 PM 1 #2 of 13
Don't share your files. Of course if your system has some sort of security issues that won't help you.
The router thing is a good idea, because most of trojan implementations open some ports on your local machine so that the trojan client can connect to you (the trojan server). If the router is a dedicated machine with strong access restriction and no port forwardings most trojans don't work.
Or at least the trojan client can't connect to them. They can still harm your system but that's another story.

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Old Feb 27, 2008, 05:39 PM Local time: Feb 27, 2008, 11:39 PM 1 #3 of 13
Physical access is the problem. Give me a system with passworded windows logon and I can disable the pw in some minutes (remove BIOS pw if existant, boot from boot-cd and manipulate registry).

If you don't want this to happen you need some sort of encryption on the system, preferrably boot encryption (truecrypt 5.x does this).

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Feb 28, 2008, 08:55 AM Local time: Feb 28, 2008, 02:55 PM 1 #4 of 13
And IIRC even THAT is circumventable by turning a bottle of canned air upside down, turning the computer off and immediately spraying the RAM... although that might be hard drive encryption.
I know the article you're referring to. But you need a lot more equipment than just canned air.

It's the nature of security, unfortunately. The only unbreakable security measures have the inconvenient side-effect of also locking out the people that are SUPPOSED to use it.
Symmetric harddrive encryption is very easy today as it's completly transparent for the user and applications. All systems at my home have filesystems encrypted where sensible data is stored, AES+LRW, 384bits.

The problem The_Griffin mentioned:
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In case someone is interested.

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