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Hard reset - will it kill off my new harddisk?
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Old Nov 1, 2007, 02:29 PM Local time: Nov 1, 2007, 08:29 PM #1 of 11
It doesn't really matter. Each power cycle shortens the life of your harddrive.

You should either get some new RAM or find something like badram for windows. badram is a patch for the linux kernel that disables use of particular RAM areas so the faulty parts are not used. That would help in your situation.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Nov 4, 2007, 05:55 AM Local time: Nov 4, 2007, 11:55 AM #2 of 11
sorry to bump, but I would like to ask whether it's possible to diagnose the bad part of the ram with certain software.
That's memtest86 - it diagnoses the RAM, telling you which positions are not keeping correct data over time.

I want to use memtest86, but it seems only testing the ram, and doesnt provide much solution because the bad part would probably still used by the pc.
What do you expect? memtest86 to automagically repair your memory??
It's in the name memtest86, it's testing your RAM, nothing more nothing less. The only solution left for you is to exchange the faulty memory, since there is no badram patch for windows (I was interested myself, so I looked it up).

Or try to put the faulty memory in the slot which results in the highest linear address and then limit the RAM used by Windows. At least this should be possible by passing boot parameters to the kernel.

There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Old Nov 4, 2007, 11:14 AM Local time: Nov 4, 2007, 05:14 PM #3 of 11
I just used it, and wow, I'm surprised, there are about 3000 or more errors in my ram.
Not the amount is interesting, but how the errors are distributed in the memory. Do you have two modules installed, or only one?

Since my laptop couldnt use ddr, I have no choice but to stick with this till I could afford new laptop. ;_;
I assume that the system uses SDRAM-SODIMM (144 pin). I can find a lot of these modules on the german ebay site (I think there are even more on the US homepage). So you can still find replacement RAM.

to be honest I'm confused what you meant with this, I'm totally noob for this stuff, is there any good tutorial to show me how to do this?
I want to be honest too. If you haven't understood anything I told you, you should really get some replacement RAM or live on with the permanent risk of loosing your data. I should mention that you're exposed to two types of risk. One is mechanical damage from the frequent power cycles, the other is filesystem corruption from bitrot in your memory. An operating system can just do anything if memory changes zeros to ones and vice versa at random. NTFS is relavitely safe when it comes to system lockups or power outage. But no filesystem is safe from software errors... and bad memory triggers a lot of these.

thanks in advance liquidacid. Now I want to try seagate seatools, I hope this hdd not broken already, because just today, I hard reset it about... 6 times or more (these bsod keep coming, sigh)
You can't expect any software which uses memory to work reliable on your system. If you choose to run any kind of harddrive diagnostic software on this system it could report false errors or corrupt the drive even more. If you have any important data on the drive I recommend you back it up now (NOT using the system with the bad memory) and don't use the backup media (if read-write media) with the system.

Additional Spam:
Because of the way Windows manages RAM it is not possible to "hide" the bad bits like in Linux. With 3000 (!) errors in your RAM you should throw it away NOW before you corrupt any data on your PC.
It's just that MS isn't really interested in this feature. You can 'hide' RAM from Windows, but only by telling it that it should only use that much of it. So you can define a maximum amount, but not the exact locations like with the badram patch - where you only loose the bytes that are bad.
So if your error is like in the first 10MB of the module, you only have this one and it has a size of 512MB... you're fucked.

BSOD and GPF will be your closest friends until you replace the broken parts.
Or switch to linux

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Last edited by LiquidAcid; Nov 4, 2007 at 11:18 AM. Reason: This member got a little too post happy.
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