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Old Sep 3, 2008, 08:25 PM Local time: Sep 4, 2008, 02:25 AM #1 of 61
Be aware that Chrome is collecting data and sends them to their central server (read: spyware). This includes all URLs that are visited during the browser use.

Read for example: Google-Browser entpuppt sich als Datenspion - pressetext.austria (use a translation service)

Anyone who wants privacy should currently stay away from the browser (or at least use a version where the sourcecode is patched, so the spyware code is disabled).

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Sep 3, 2008, 10:31 PM Local time: Sep 4, 2008, 04:31 AM #2 of 61
@Bigblah: Who tells you that I'm using Google as a search engine?

To comment this a bit more:
Luckily they don't learn anything new, since most of your browsing habits are already happily fed through their search engine and text ads every day.
1) I'm using a stripped down Seamonkey build, no integrated search feature activated
2) Adblock+ blocks most ads, modified hosts file does the rest
3) Cookie usage is restricted
3) I can fire up a I2P router for additional security/anonymity

I'm well aware that Google is collecting data. But it's IP-based data, maybe cookie supported (see above), so it's rather useless for them if the ISP uses dynamic IPs. Furthermore I can SSH-tunnel through my University server, effectively using this one as a proxy, making it nearly impossible to figure out who of the thousand of students is currently browsing the web.
And yes, I know some guys from the computer labs which run the network, this data is not recorded (currently at least...)

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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Old Sep 3, 2008, 11:21 PM Local time: Sep 4, 2008, 05:21 AM #3 of 61
Isn't that only if you allow it to? Just send it lots of porn.
I'm not sure. If I have fully understood the article there is no config options to switch this on/off. I dunno about that privacy mode though, maybe it behaves different there.

@Zergrinch: Why don't you just use your regular browser-integrated history for that? That one is totally local and not visible for anyone else without access to your system.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Sep 4, 2008, 12:42 PM Local time: Sep 4, 2008, 06:42 PM #4 of 61
That's the same broken argument you get from proponents of government sanctioned wiretapping. "If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear."
Full ack. I'm a bit allergic to surveillance (and I don't think that is limited to my person). We already had this in the past (see: Stasi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) and currently our government is on it's best way to what some call Stasi 2.0.
Not wanting this and protecting himself from it has nothing to do with paranoia, it's a (hard) lesson learned from the past. Some of you should really have a talk with people from East Germany who suffered greatly from the whole Stasi surveillance thing. That is nothing to laugh about...

LiquidAcid's approach might be somewhat overkill (the time invested in it alone, I suppose), but nothing wrong with protecting one's privacy out of the principle that it just isn't anyone else's goddamn business.
Oh, it's not really that much trouble to set it up.
Points 1) to 3) are a one time thing, I usually do this when installing a system. Point 4) (sry, it's not correctly labeled) is rarely used by me. But it's just a matter of starting an application and changing the proxy server in my browser, so it's really no rocket science.

Using the university proxy isn't also very hard. I usually have a SSH connection to the main university server open (to have access to my files there and to some superior CPU power *g*). If that connection is up it's also only changing the browser proxy. Really simple, so nothing that takes minutes of setup.

And everybody complaining about bugs in the beta:
chromium - Google Code

There is bugtracker hosted on the site, so if you encounter a bug look it up in the list and if you don't find it then post it.

@Memory usage: Initial releases usually have a very low memory consumption, compared to other applications that do the same thing. That was the same for initial releases of the FF browser.
Before jumping to any kind of conclusions most of you should wait for some final release and then track then memory usage with every following release. It's going to increase as well (same as FF), up to the point where everybody complains and a lot of code is rewritten to fix this issue (example: FF3).
I really don't think it's going to stay this way.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?
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Old Sep 5, 2008, 10:44 PM Local time: Sep 6, 2008, 04:44 AM #5 of 61
"It does query for search completions" <- then it has to send data about the typed in URL to the server. What's the difference?

Another vulnerability:
EvilFingers - Google Chrome Browser 0.2.149.27 in chrome.dll

I was speaking idiomatically.
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