Impeaching Bush

Originally Posted by Arainach

Skexis: Where, exactly, does it say that America decides the consequences of violating a UN resolution? If the UN wanted to go to war the UN could have gone to war. Bush deciding to invade Iraq for such a reason is like me shooting a man because he commited murder - it's not my responsibility, nor within my rights, to do so.

Except that the resolution that ended the Persian Gulf War gave any UN member country the authority to enforce the resolution on Saddam.

Besides, I didn't hear you and your ilk complaining when Clinton was bombing the hell out of Iraq.

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Even if documents were revealed that showed this - what crime was committed?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

So the question begs - what meritorious officers were removed that shouldn't have been?

And I advise you to dot your I's and cross your Ts before you come out of your face with something silly.

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The guy lied about Iraq.

Which always begs the question: What statement did George W. Bush make that he knew was untrue about Iraq before he made it? Furthermore, when did he say this statement when it was a criminal act to do so?

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He failed to prevent the disaster of Katrina.

Last time I checked, the power to manipulate the weather belongs to the X-Man Storm, not George W. Bush.

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He failed to do anything after Katrina.

This statement suggests that there was no federal involvement on the Gulf Coast at all, which is at very best you simply not knowing what you're talking about.

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He lied about September 11.

What is this alleged lie? Keep in mind that a lie is a statment that is known to be untrue at the time it is given, so you must also show that Bush knew whatever he said was untrue.

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What about the failures of deliberately only stocking "loyal bushies" (thanks for the quote, Mr. Rove) into the supreme court and forcing out people who were qualified because they were moderate?

While I don't see how that qualifies as a 'failure' per se - what moderates were forced out of the Supreme Court? Furthermore, how? Supreme Court justices have lifetime appointments.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Oh, U.S. Attorneys. Sorry, NP. Canadian, not used to your judicial system. And it's a failure because it makes him look like an idiot to anyone not in his paltry 36%. Team Texas has been thoroughly bounced, and his decisions have cost him Rumsfeld, Powell and probably Gonzalez. That's a failure. When your team implodes like that, that's what we call it.

That U.S. Attorney scandal is complete and utter bullshit. There was ZERO controversy when Clinton removed all 96 during his term. Bush's Justice Department gets rid of 8 and it's a scandal? Be fucking serious.

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Clinton purged them at the BEGINNING of his term and did it unilaterally to clean out house. Bush did it in the MIDDLE of his term for political purposes. There's a very strong difference - one is corruption and one isn't.

Ok, Clinton removed every last one of the previous administration's U.S. attorneys in order to clean house and put in the people he wanted. That is fine with you and you don't consider it corruption.

Bush, on the other hand, removes 8 and it qualifies as corruption? How in the fuck do you get that leap in logic?

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It's a fact that President Bush was given several documents from both the CIA and foreign intelligences many months beforehand that terrorists were planning to attack the U.S. which Bush ignored.

As someone who does private contract work for the CIA from time to time, CIA analysts always write up reports warning of some terrorist who wants to or plans to attack the United States. You know how many of these the President sees on a daily basis - dozens.

Of the hundreds he sees a month, one happened to come to fruition. Hindsight is 20/20, but given the sheer volume of these 'serious threats' that come across his desk, it isn't a reach to see how one slipped by.

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