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Night Phoenix · Local time: Nov 7, 2006, 08:10 AM

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while i concede that minimum wages eliminate jobs, i would urge you to find the families who are being supported by less than $6/hr and tell me their quality of life is acceptable.

What kind of idiot tries to support a FAMILY on six bucks an hour? If the only job you can get is a minimum wage job and you have a wife and kids, then it's quite obvious that you have virtually no marketable job skills and you would be exactly the type of person who would be fucked over by a raise in the minimum wage because you'll be the first one to get the axe when employers have to cut costs when you raise the wage.

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don't get me wrong, i'm actually a pretty socialist guy, but at the same time we do have to keep our economy afloat, or else we won't be able to sustain ourselves as a nation and have all the government services that should be inalienable to all our citizens (while this may not yet be the case in the US, as we lack things like universal health care, we could never get to a place where universal health care is a possibility with a sinking economy).

Sinking economy? The economy hasn't been this strong in decades. Tax revenues are at an all time high, unemployment is at 4.4% (which most economists consider to be basically full employment), So what sinking economy are you talking about?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Night Phoenix · Local time: Nov 11, 2006, 01:47 AM

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have you been to an urban area?

Yes, several. In fact, the music I make tends to be marketed towards them.

Now play fair, I've answered yours - answer mine.

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I don't really understand just where the so-called "all time high revenues" are going since every city I've been to is quite broke.

I'm talking about federal revenues. States, counties, and muncipalities collect their own taxes which fund their operations. As such, federal revenues being at an all time high really has nothing to do with whether or not a city government itself is broke because cities have a separate revenue stream.

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You have that money you wanted to plough into helping the poor, where should you put?

Let the people you took it from keep it in the first place.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Night Phoenix · Local time: Nov 11, 2006, 08:12 PM

How are CEO's being greedy?

How ya doing, buddy?

Night Phoenix · Local time: Nov 11, 2006, 08:30 PM

What is a ridiculous rate? Who determines whether or not it is ridiculous?

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Night Phoenix · Local time: Nov 12, 2006, 03:03 PM

My question, genius:

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What kind of idiot tries to support a FAMILY on six bucks an hour?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Night Phoenix · Local time: Nov 12, 2006, 05:42 PM

Ok, so then the question is - why don't they have a better choice?

Why do they have children when they can't do any better than a minimum wage job?

The simple fact of the matter is this: I've probably been to more hoods than you've ever heard of and people who work minimum wage jobs trying to support families are people who:

1) Got pregnant or knocked someone up while in high school
2) Had to drop out of school as a result to support those children
3) Have neither the requisite job skills or the education to get better-paying jobs

As such, raising the minimum wage will only hurt these kind of people because these are the FIRST people who lose their jobs when businesses have to cut expenses.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?