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The Immigration Protests
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Old May 27, 2006, 10:25 AM Local time: May 27, 2006, 10:25 AM #26 of 453
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People don't need to learn english, though. As a matter of fact, it is perfectly possible to be a contributing member of an American society with only basic or rudimentary english. Janitors, cooks, etc and all sorts of other profesions where customers are no interfaced have little to no use for English.
And yet still, without the ability to adequately speak, read, and write English, it is impossible for them to integrate into society. They will always be an outsider because they don't speak the common language. The point of allowing immigrants into this country is to create new citizens, citizens who will be incorporated into the 'melting pot.' As I've said before, you can't have a proper melting pot if some of the ingredients do not mix with the others.

I'm not saying these people should abandon their own language or customs, but these people aren't integrating with American society at all.

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That would be militarizing our borders, as the post I was refering to put it.
I'm going to have to ask you to answer the question:

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Why is it suddenly inhuman to DEFEND YOUR FUCKING BORDERS AGAINST PEOPLE WHO ARE BREAKING YOUR LAWS?!
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That's something that you may want, but the majority of Americans probably don't.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1631566.shtml

62% of the population want troops on the border.

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Old May 29, 2006, 07:31 AM Local time: May 29, 2006, 07:31 AM #27 of 453
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America has pretty much no welfare to speak of anyway
Except for Medicare, Medicaid, FICA (food stamps), Section 8 housing, oh, and of course, the biggest money pit ever devised - Social Security.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old May 30, 2006, 01:26 AM Local time: May 30, 2006, 01:26 AM #28 of 453
It almost seems as if you think the American gov't should sit idly by as uncontrolled immigration drastically changes demographics, creates division because an ever-increasing portion of the population shares neither the common language, culture, or values.

It happened before during a time of lawlessness, so the laws should be ignored or changed to allow it to happen again, right? That's your argument, correct?

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Old May 30, 2006, 04:24 PM Local time: May 30, 2006, 04:24 PM #29 of 453
In short: Nothing America does outside of capitulating to anything and everything is right. If America acts in its own interests in any way, it is a tyrannical, empirical state that must be stopped at all costs.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old May 30, 2006, 11:49 PM Local time: May 30, 2006, 11:49 PM #30 of 453
And yet nothing that you say in anyway gives me any good reason as to why we should allow these people to come here en masse.

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Old May 31, 2006, 12:52 PM Local time: May 31, 2006, 12:52 PM #31 of 453
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If that's what they were after, that's where they'd go.
What other country can millions of Mexicans get into with no kind of scrutiny whatsoever besides the United States?

Your argument fails because it ignores the fact that America's proximity and ease of entry into the country (illegally) is the primary reason why Mexicans come to America instead of someone else.

People almost always take the path of least resistance.

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