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[Classic] Final Fantasy VI Advanced
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Old Feb 25, 2007, 09:46 AM Local time: Feb 25, 2007, 10:46 PM #1 of 282
I've been playing this game a bit. A decade has passed since I last played it, and I'm finally approaching this with a more strategic bent.

Whereas Vanish/Doom can kill almost anything back then, Vanish/Death isn't quite as effective anymore. For the bunch of you who desperately want to harvest Intangirs for the AP, try the Confuse/Smoke Bomb trick.

Confuse/Smoke Bomb:
Encounter an Intangir. Cast Confuse on one character not protected against it. While the spell is animating, have the targetted character use the Smoke Bomb item (buyable on Setzer's airship). The confused character will use the item on the Intangir, causing it to run after casting a single target Meteor spell on the confused guy. Voila, 10 AP, though you DON'T get the Bestiary entry until you actually killed one.

How to kill legitimately? Eh, STOP. Then wail on him.


Nice port, though. While I can't understand why they put the Bestiary in Options, the translation was much improved. You can actually sing to the Opera lyrics, and it rhymes as well. (I believe the Woolsey translation hews to the syllables, but does not always rhyme.)

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Old Mar 1, 2007, 09:53 AM Local time: Mar 1, 2007, 10:53 PM #2 of 282
Can you get a complete esper list? It is my understanding that you STILL have to choose between the Odin and Raiden espers...

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Old Mar 3, 2007, 08:57 AM Local time: Mar 3, 2007, 09:57 PM #3 of 282
Cactuars eh? They only got 3 HP, so let us count the ways.
  1. Sabin -> Blitz -> take your pick
  2. Edgar -> Tools -> Drill, Chainsaw
  3. Setzer -> equipped with Dice -> Fight
  4. Relm -> Sketch/Control -> 1000 Needles
  5. Strago -> Lore -> take your pick
  6. Anyone -> Magic -> Ultima (a bit too much)
  7. Anyone equipped with Lightbringer, if you got the Ragnarok Sword -> Fight
  8. Anyone equipped with the Sniper Eye relic -> Fight

Be careful. You don't want to kill too many cactuars (if you do, a huge one shows up And you do NOT want to fight him just yet, if you're having problems with its 3 HP cousins. And ESPECIALLY if you don't have the Reraise spell, from Phoenix)

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Colosseum betting? First you have to analyze what's killing you off. Is it elemental? Status ailments? Instant death magic? These can all be handled with the right equipment and relics. (You can absorb fire, blizzard, and thunder element spells with the right shield, for instance. My characters were roughly at the same level when I was doing the Colosseium thing, though I must tell you I have both the Lightbringer sword and the Paladin shield equipped on the combatant.

However, there are certain spells you can't absorb. Such as Meteor, or that blasted Traveler blue magic. (I get owned a lot by Tonberries, and there's nothing I can do about it, aside from luck!) Gogo's a great person to stick in there, if you have him, since you can customize his command set. If you don't, you may want to stick Terra or Celes once you get Minerva Bustiers. These are awesome element-absorbers.

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Old Mar 3, 2007, 09:27 AM Local time: Mar 3, 2007, 10:27 PM #4 of 282
Yes, that's right. Same enemy for same item. So you can prepare, and keep on reloading if you lose.

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Old Mar 7, 2007, 07:16 AM Local time: Mar 7, 2007, 08:16 PM #5 of 282
Master Tonberry is a pushover once you rasp away his magic (after you make him sleep, of course!) and vanish yourself away

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Old Mar 9, 2007, 07:04 PM Local time: Mar 10, 2007, 08:04 AM #6 of 282
Oh, and I got the Master Scroll! Yay!!! To think that I never gotten any of these awesome items when I played the last 2 times >_>
Master Scroll + Brigand's Glove + awesome weapon is good for Locke?
You can only steal once, sorry. In the past, an abused relic combination (along with Soul of Thamasa + Celestriad, sup infinite ultima) is Master Scroll with Genji Glove. This combo gets a total of 8 hits with the fight command. Personally I think it's not worth it, but striking 8 times IS pretty cool

I got the Cursed Shield too, and am at the Solitary Island now to uncurse the damn thing. I first put Shadow in the party to have him steal too for elixirs, but Interceptor kept killing them before I even have a chance to steal, so out he went!
My source of purloined Elixirs is in the Veldt, with Locke stealing from those hapless magic pots. (But I admit it's a wee bit irregular). You can try using Locke to steal, and casting stop to prevent those enemies from suiciding.

I'm saddened that you have to kill Deathgaze before I can get Bahamut. I've only seen that stupid monster ONCE.
Once was all I need, but by the time I was overleveled in magic. Quick + Ultima + Ultima a few times (or Thundaga if low on MP) and he croaked before I even had to Curaga. Deathgaze, by the way, is randomly hidden in one of the 4096 tiles of the overworld map. You can only meet him if you run into him. He stays in that tile until you meet him, and if he runs from you, he hides in random, different tile.

Ragnarok...Esper or sword?
Esper. I only got the sword because I plan to use a cheat code to get the esper, after I complete my other acquisitions (I'm missing Diabolos)

Got Gigantuar. I was in shock when I saw it. It's Jumbo Cactuar from FFVIII! XD Two people survived after the 1000 Needles x 10 attack at the end
I met him when I wasn't even ready, and there was only one guy who could hit him with regularity. Man, it was a tough slog, especially when each of my group members' HP was less than 2000. Reraise saved my ass, with Cyan surviving the last 1000 Needles attack with just 27 HP left.

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Old Mar 10, 2007, 12:02 AM Local time: Mar 10, 2007, 01:02 PM #7 of 282
Sure, I can. But I don't intend to fight Kefka that many times. Sure, I'm a completist. But I'm not THAT much a completist!

(I just wanted the sword NOW, since I uncursed the shield already.)

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Old Mar 11, 2007, 06:59 PM Local time: Mar 12, 2007, 07:59 AM #8 of 282
You need 500,000 Gil to buy Excalipoor. (I must warn you that Gilgamesh is VERY tough.)

You need to have the Ragnarok esper, or Paladin Shield equipped on a character, and gain 100 AP from battles, in order to gain Ultima. Best place to learn is the Cactuar desert or, if you don't want to muddy up with experience from Hoovers, in Fanatics Tower.

Leviathan was killing me before I noticed that he has painful magic counters, but so-so physical counters. Still, his El Nino attack isn't pleasant.

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Old Mar 11, 2007, 07:33 PM Local time: Mar 12, 2007, 08:33 AM #9 of 282
No, they learn it IF they equip the shield. Same deal with equipping Fire/Ice/Thunder shields, which teach you Firaga/Blizzaga/Thundaga at a x1 rate. (If you've equipped it while fighting cactuars, which give 10 AP a fight, it's no wonder why you learn it so fast!)

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Old Mar 11, 2007, 07:41 PM Local time: Mar 12, 2007, 08:41 AM #10 of 282
Gentlemen, what were your levels when you fought these beasts? Just asking.

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Old Mar 11, 2007, 07:48 PM Local time: Mar 12, 2007, 08:48 AM #11 of 282
Haha, serves me right for bringing level 35 characters when acquiring Gilgamesh, without Ultima, treasures from Fanatics Tower, Ancient Castle, or Cyan's Dream. Gilgamesh one-hit KOs me, his blue magic hurt, and the only way I could beat him was rasp him off, and vanish myself. Of course, THEN he was a pushover

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Old Mar 14, 2007, 07:08 PM Local time: Mar 15, 2007, 08:08 AM #12 of 282
AP levelling in the desert is getting boring now. I meet too many worms and not enough Cactuars and I always run away from the worms so I don't get the EXP, but FFVIa has some sort of crappy run system where it can take like, 20 seconds before they actually run away. It's boring watching them attempting to run. Of course, it also sucks that while they're doing that, the worm kills one of them off with Crush.
Instead of L+R, use the Teleport spell or the Smoke Bomb item to escape from battle. It's much quicker.

I AP-leveled at Fanatics Tower. Coat the party with reflect rings and fire retardant gear (one monster casts Meltdown), then cast float (one monster casts Quake). It's not gonna be easy for you to die, unless you were really trying to

By the way, when I do get to Kefkas Tower, which paths have the bosses? I don't want to put a crap team up against a boss.
ALL your teams should be decent. Though, in a pinch you could equip Celestriad+Soul of Thamasa, cast Quickx2, then spam 8 Ultimas (for a low low cost of 10 MP, and an upper damage limit of 79,992 HP. Few bosses can survive that initial onslaught!

I quote from Djibriel's FAQ:

Here's a quick rundown on what the three parties will face. Half-way there's a switch for party #1. Going left or right affects the paths of all three parties, so I'm giving both scenarios here.
  1. #1 will know the most random encounters in the first part of the dungeon, but doesn't face any bosses before the left/right choice. If #1 goes left, it will have to face off against Fiend; if #1 goes to the right, it will face Goddess.
  2. #2 will meet Ultima Buster and the Gold Dragon. If #1 goes to the left, #2 will also face Goddess; if #1 goes to the right, these will face off against Demon.
  3. #3 will have to defeat Inferno and the Skull Dragon in their travels. If #1 goes left, these will have to face Demon; if #1 go to the right, they'll come across Fiend.
  4. Party #1 will fight the most random encounters, but won't fight any bosses. I'd say the #3 party sees the toughest road ahead of it.


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Old Mar 23, 2007, 10:10 AM Local time: Mar 23, 2007, 11:10 PM #13 of 282
Seizure is like poison, except you can't antidote it, and it disappears after battle. You can only cancel it with Regen.

Tools I think are stronger based on Strength, except for Flash.

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Old Mar 25, 2007, 09:48 AM Local time: Mar 25, 2007, 10:48 PM #14 of 282
Umaro's Ending? See for yourself.
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Wolf, you're not going to attempt the extra dungeons: Dragon's Den and the Soul Shrine?

(Not that you're gonna need them, but you can steal some Master Scrolls in the Soul Shrine)

1 Ultima Weapon + 1 Master Scroll + 1 Locke + 100% HP + 115 Strength = 39,996 damage per turn, 79,992 with Quick, for a low low cost of 99 MP!) Phooey on Celestriads and Souls of Thamasa, I say! Only bosses such as Kaiser Dragon and Omega Weapon can withstand more than 2 rounds of this abuse - I daresay Kefka falls in 1, hehehe.

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Old Apr 10, 2007, 08:54 PM Local time: Apr 11, 2007, 09:54 AM #15 of 282
Steal algorithm:

Locke's Level + 50 - Monster Level = Steal Percentage
If Sneak Ring equipped, Steal Percentage = Steal Percentage * 2

Note: Rare Steal = 1 in 8.

Ergo in your case:

45 + 50 - 97 = -2
-2 * 2 = 0
Chance of stealing = 0%

Level him up moar!

Suggestion: Rasp away Gilgamesh's 3,000 MP, cast Vanish (Phantom) on party, and you can steal as you please.

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