DC vs. Marvel (Conventional Warfare)

We've pretty much had crossovers between these two universes, with heroes and villains fighting against each other. The JLA and JSA have clashed on occasion with the Avengers, Fantastic Four, and the X-Men.

I pose this question. Without metahuman (defined as anybody with superpowers, be they from magic, radiation, or genetics) support, who would win in a fight?

No support allowed from space-faring allies (Kree, Skrull, Daxam, Rann, Thanagar) or cosmic entities (Thanos, Darkseid). Capes with no powers (Batman, Captain America) are allowed to participate (no flapping red Superman undies). The Marvel Universe referred here is the mainstream 616 one.

I'm not sure if OMACs are considered 'metahuman' or not. Arguably, Doombots and the Iron Legion can be brought in against them :P Technology achieved by each Universe is allowed, even from alien origin, if it has been shown to be used in conventional applications. Marvel may use its Sentinels; DC may use the Rocket Reds.

At any rate, do state your views on why you chose a particular outcome (DC winning, Marvel winning, other) for discussion purposes

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Interesting.

So you folks are saying, the outcome would differ whether the battles took place in the Marvel Universe, or in the DC Universe? Let's assume both sides don't know about each other, and that both sides happen to have their most advanced tech (no cheating with off-world tech like zeta beams, mother boxes, and kree tech).

From the channel chat, Happy is pretty much convinced that SHIELD and the ONE Sentinels, combined with conventional armies and such can mop the floor with anything DC throws at it. I begged to differ, and thought Batman and Luthor could wage a dandy war against the Marvelites. (Doom is not allowed to use magic - this is a conventional thing.)

I guess the question I'm asking here is, which universe has better tech available to their respective countries, and stand a better chance against invaders? For instance, is Blackhawk tech as good as Wakandan tech, or Latveria tech superior to Lexcorp tech?

Originally Posted by melkor

If only meta-humans and Cosmic entities were allowed...

Other interesting things related to this publisher pairing would be:

• DC vs Marvel, cosmic entities and spacefarers (Darkseid, Green Lanterns, Thanagar etc. vs. Nova Corps, Shi'ar, Galactus etc.)
• DC vs Marvel, magic and religion (Zatanna, Captain Marvel, Neron etc. vs. Dr. Strange, Thor, Mephisto etc.)
• DC vs Marvel, children only - below 18 (Teen Titans, Legion etc. vs. Young Avengers, Runaways etc.)

But that's another topic, don't you think?

There's nowhere I can't reach.