Holocaust Deniers Gather in Iran

What do you mean by having an objective point of view on that topic? It's a fact that the holocaust happened. The only alternative point of view would be denial.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by niki

I don't even want to enter the debate itself as, again, both you and I have only one voice telling us what happened and how. I'm just saying the fact the "what" and "how" are not arguable makes our Democratic countries look bad. I wish we could just leave all history to historians.

Outright denial and arguing the "what" and "how" are two entirely different things, though.

I still refuse to see how denying the holocaust is synomymous to an objective point of view.

How ya doing, buddy?

Would you rather have this gathering of Holocaust deniers take place somewhere in Europe?

Do you seriously believe the participants of this meeting to have "objective opinions" on the subject? It's a political instrument for Ahmadinejad and a welcome opportunity for extremists to spread their Antizionist and Neonazi propaganda.

How ya doing, buddy?

There are certain things that should not be covered under freedom of speech. Denying the Holocaust is one of them, because it's always connected with racism.

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Thread: The Holocaust is serious business

mindOverMatter: "But Hitler!"

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Bradylama

Nevermind here, that Rock is German, and attempting to atone for the sins of his Jew-gassing grandpa by convincing us very loudly that the Holocaust happened, or that several Western countries have strong Zionist lobbies which regardless of any central organization are nonetheless loud enough to get measures like the French censorship laws put into place.

Might be more of the latter, actually. I was merely posting here because niki sounded like that meeting in Iran was some sort of a good and objective thing that should have been allowed to take place in Europe.

Also note that Holocaust deniers aren't actually prosecuted as criminals here, but rather kept from publishing books and holding public speeches about the issue. According to German law, these people are charged with slander or libel or something like that. I think it's only fair.

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Has it ever occurred to you filthy Germans that outlawing the Nazi Party is the very reason Germany has such a problem with Neo-Nazism? Of course not, though, because prohibition works for drugs, right?

Interestingly, the "Nazi Party" (NPD) isn't even outlawed in Germany. I think that's a good thing.

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The NSDAP doesn't even exist anymore, Brady. And what sense would it make to form such a party if you can just join the NPD instead?

Also, most Germans agree that outlawing them is wrong. So don't sound like "we" Germans are to blame for it.

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