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The Middle East spirals out of control!
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:11 PM Local time: Aug 13, 2006, 11:11 PM #26 of 270
Originally Posted by Celisasu
Yet it's dragged the entire country into a war with Israel that Lebanon can't win.
Neither can Israel. It's funny that they're actually starting to realize this now that they've essentially levelled an entire country, killed hundreds and displaced millions of civilians. If anyone, terrorism wins this war due to the increased hatred towards Israel in the entire region.

Originally Posted by Celisasu
Israel has no choice but to hit Lebanese civilians because Hezbollah has hidden itself among the civilians.
Like somebody holds their commanding officers at gunpoint and forces them to launch airstrikes on civilian targets with supposed Hezbollah fighters. Oh please, come on. They do have a choice to risk these insane amounts of civilian casualties just like everyone else in this pointless war has a choice to stop fighting it.

Originally Posted by Celisasu
Hezbollah has also bragged about Israel killing more civilians than Hezbollah fighters. Pretty sad protectors of the people when they're bragging about more innocents dying than their own people huh?
Where do you even get this from? They didn't "brag" about this and they don't need to because it's a fact. Is Israel bragging about Hezbollah bragging about their losses?

Originally Posted by Celisasu
All this work put into rebuilding Lebanon and all of it gone along with over a thousand lives just because Hezbollah had to show they could fight Isreal. It was a pointless war that Hezbollah began and that everyone had to suffer for both on the Lebanese and Israeli side.
Good job blaming the Lebanese people for the destruction of their country. Note that Hezbollah is and remains a dwindling minority among the people of Lebanon. Is it fair to destroy an entire country because some fanatics chose to attack yours?

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Old Aug 13, 2006, 06:23 PM Local time: Aug 14, 2006, 01:23 AM #27 of 270
It doesn't really matter, Brady. What matters is that by choosing to attack these sites where Hezbollah troops are supposedly hiding, they deliberately risk killing a lot more civilians.

I agree that this is some sort of dilemma, because Israel wouldn't be half as successfull with their campaign if they didn't, but the point is that they very well do have a choice of risking these casualties or not: nobody actually forces them to kill civilians! But by making their choice, they are to be held morally accountable for the human tragedy that other nations now rushing in have to try and avert.

Now waiting for the next person to barge in and argue with Hezbollah deliberately attacking civilian targets. Well, good job comparing the state of Israel to a terrorist organization.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 06:37 PM Local time: Aug 14, 2006, 01:37 AM #28 of 270
Yeah, consider the term "insane" withdrawn from my original post.

Still, you're now relating Israel's choice to the very basic reasoning of the war itself, while I was merely thinking in tactical campaign dimensions. Let's say the IDF was a bit more prudent in choosing their targets, wouldn't that be a choice they have in reducing civilian casualties? Of course, it'll put them at a strategic disadvantage over their enemy, but considering Israel having one of the world's most powerful and well-equipped armies fighting a "bunch of criminals" as they like to call Hezbollah, it shouldn't be much of a problem.

Or have they just underestimated the Hezbollah's capabilities?

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