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I have the 30 Gig Creative Zen Vison M and I must say it is well worth the price. I don't know if it is superior to Ipod or not, it depends on what you use it for. The 30 Gig Ipod Video has better battery life when playing music by a couple hours, but the Zen has about 4 hours of battery life for video (about 2 times more than the Ipod) The Ipod Video is thiner than the Zen. The Zen has a microphone, it also freezes a bit more often than it should. I don't know about the Ipods menu system so I wont go into that except on the Zen you can create your own background with images from your computer (for those that like that kind of thing) Overall they are both really great devices, I only decided on my Zen because it was $50 off due to it being open box.
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