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Chudah's Corner Closes; GFA Blamed [Update: CC is back up; more talks in progress]
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Old Apr 22, 2007, 11:55 PM Local time: Apr 22, 2007, 08:55 PM 1 #1 of 56
I feel absolutely saddened and disappointed by this huge debacle, mostly in part due to the flaming response that some members in the different "worlds" of the VGM universe have decided to pursue. I'm not necessarily talking about the moderators or the people in Gamingforce; after all, GFF was initially neutral in the discussion until someone pointed it out. There are just some people in the different forums who are solely biased against different groups.

Understandably, not everyone agrees with the opinions of different people. IE: I might like one track of music better than others, or I might frequent one location more than another. However, everyone is bonded together by a sole unique experience: the pursuit of the diversity and quality of game music as opposed to other forms of music. This by itself is particularly relevant, because it's not often that people hear an "oh, you love game music? I do too" in public.

This is why we must learn to disagree about our different opinions. Understandably, I have completely opposite views of music from others, and sometimes strongly defend my biases towards certain composers and styles of music. However, I do take everyone's opinion seriously and understand that others have their right to their own views. In the same way, I believe that we must learn to respect other peoples' views about their forums, and I'm a heavy participant in GFF simply because I believe that the forum is willing to accept opinions. Gamingforce NEVER fully anticipated this debacle, as it basically used the equivalent of an mp3-tag script to upload many of the translations, tracklists, lyrics, and scans to the server. I personally know bishop743, who was one of the most major participants in uploading lists to the server. He absolutely loves game music, and frequently rips for #gamemp3s as well as other sources. There is no reason why his, or any of the other GFF members' tracklists should suddenly be removed from the server. Rather, it is implausible to not use other sources in the construction of a database, because we're a community. If people publicly decide to release music in the form of a game album rip in order to share our interests, why should we be saddened if other people decide to use the same material to spread information about our community.

That is why I feel that Chudah's Corner should really be proud about their database. Honestly, if Gamingforce accidentally uses the same tracklist info and a few scans, I would be proud, because it would mean that my information has spread to the rest of the community. It is arrogant and somewhat demoralizing to have to keep a single database and assume that the database will be the only one that exists, and I don't believe that Chudah seriously thinks that way.

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Old Apr 23, 2007, 12:29 AM Local time: Apr 22, 2007, 09:29 PM #2 of 56
Mind if I add, in case my above post seemed somewhat biased towards anyone, but I think the best solution to this crisis is really what's going on right now. GFA will probably add some sort of member credit system to credit certain people for their hard work, and that will be that.

On the question of if GFF should continue to host the scans? I'd say yes, if credit was given to Chudah. It'd probably help decrease server costs on CC, and that would solve all the problems, especially with credit given.

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Old Apr 24, 2007, 08:17 AM Local time: Apr 24, 2007, 05:17 AM #3 of 56
Why all this concern over someone, somewhere on the internet getting mad? If Chudah was blowing this all out of proportion, why bother placating at all? I have to assume this is a PR thing as much as anything else, because it'd be silly to feel responsible for someone else mistakenly feeling slighted.
Because it's still an important part of the game music community. Ignoring an issue like this would only cause separate "factions" inside the Internet world, creative a rupture within the community itself. Like I said, I never thought that Chudah honestly was self-centered, after the amount of music the released to the community.

There will always be people who hate GFF, or vice versa. But seriously, we just have to ignore all of the other flaming idiots on the internet. There's a difference between what can be solvable, and what can't, and preventing asshats like Zane won't really do anything.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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