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Watts
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Old Apr 20, 2006, 06:53 PM Local time: Apr 20, 2006, 04:53 PM #1 of 98
Can anyone say that they're really surprised it came to this? Parker and Stone were going to push South Park to the limits of what most people would deem decent acceptable entertainment. Comedy Central was bound to stop them at some point.

Personally, if I were Parker/Stone I would try to use this incident to get out of my contract and walk off with the money. I wouldn't be surpised if that was the overall intent. But uhh that's just me.

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Old Apr 21, 2006, 02:35 PM Local time: Apr 21, 2006, 12:35 PM #2 of 98
Originally Posted by Wesker
Parker and Stone long ago pushed the limits of what MOST people find acceptable. The problem here is that they did something that a select few violent people find unacceptable. Do you really think most americans give a shit if Mohammad is portrayed in a cartoon?
Nope, but South Park is not strictly limited to a American audience. It's shown all over the world. Including parts of Europe. You know, the place where all the riots occured over a cartoon took place?

Originally Posted by Wesker
Are they afraid of violent retribution or are they being as politically correct as the rest of the media and granting a special protected status upon islam
Probably both. The two are virtually the same reasons. I bet they're also a little wary of inciting anti-muslim feelings worldwide given what is going on in the world. As you've said, South Park has already crossed more then a few lines for most people.

There's plenty of reasons why censorship happens. Not getting slapped with huge fines by the FCC is another one. Stone/Parker can't act like they're the only people being persecuted here. That's all I'm saying.

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Old Apr 21, 2006, 05:46 PM Local time: Apr 21, 2006, 03:46 PM #3 of 98
Originally Posted by DarkLink2135
Why is it that all of the sudden Mohammed is a hot topic? This is insanely stupid. South Park blasts other religions, and its funny, but all of the sudden Mohammed is over the top? This is stupid.
Originally Posted by Wesker
Sure South Park has crossed the line for some folks. I love the show, yet there are several episodes I'd rather not watch because I think they're sort of offensive, so, no big deal, I just don't watch them. It just seems very hypocritical to allow any and all other abuses take place but keep Islam off limits. If this intimidation is taken to its logical conclusion we could be facing Sharia like laws making the denegration of Islam a crime...all because we don't want to piss certain people off.
It's politics. All of it. It doesn't really have to be intelligent or make sense. You guys are trying to be rational about political matters which really doesn't mesh well at all.

Censorship is the fear of speaking out. When has politics ever not been based upon fear? Most wars were started by fearful men. Not because people were afraid of a war, but the fear of what would happen if they didn't start one.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Apr 29, 2006, 12:05 AM Local time: Apr 28, 2006, 10:05 PM #4 of 98
Originally Posted by PattyNBK
That's not what this is about.
Considering that the Prophet has already been featured in a South Park episode, (Super Best friends) with little fanfare or controversy it certainly isn't much of a stretch of the imagination to think in that manner.

Originally Posted by PattyNBK
The goal here is to get these crazy people to realize that their ways are not acceptable in civilized society, plain and simple. On top of that, we're trying to show them that hypocracy is also unacceptable.
Everybody is hypocritical. Relatively speaking, just because we consider our society civilized, it does not make their society uncivilized if we disagree on their standards of conduct. Nor does it mean that future societie's will view our society as civilized.

Originally Posted by PattyNBK
Either way, giving in to them is not an option. Too many people have fought for and died for this country for us to give way to a bunch of raving lunatics now.
It's funny that a cartoon (or that nakie Super Bowl incident) could raise such ire over censorship. Especially when our television programming is so throughly saturated with censorship.

Even though Comedy Central isn't known to censor ANY of their shows in ANY fashion. Which is why I can always hear Stephen Colbert or Jon Stuart say the word "fuck". Oops, guess that example is out the window. Because if I did hear that the FCC would fine the hell out of Comedy Central. Furthermore, Comedy Central is owned by Viacom. Which also owns MTV. Which has to be the single most censored channel on television.

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