White House Phone Freaking?

Originally Posted by Adamgian

Just wait until after mid terms. If the Dems regain control, impeachment proceedings are going to kick off pretty quickly.

Impeachment proceedings are already getting kicked off in a couple State Legislators. If it won't start with the House of Reps, it'll just have to start somewhere else. Can't place your hopes and dreams on the Democrats actually winning. Think it was Michael Moore that said "The democrats can't win, even when they win." Don't quote me on that though.

Originally Posted by The_Griffin

Hmph... The phrase "absolute power corrupts absolutely" comes to mind here.

The worst part is that we'd all be frowning and tsking at the Democrats about similar operations if they were in power.

As much as I hate to admit it, both parties are just borked. They're fine until the exact moment they get a majority, and then the abuses begin. Repbulican, Democrat... it doesn't matter. There's always going to be some asshole who will take advantage of the system for their own gain.

My feelings exactly. The Democrats hold no power, therfore they don't have an oppurtunity to be that corrupt yet.

Wait a second. It's just all Bush. Yup Bush. Everything will be okay once Bush is gone.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Eleo

These kind of things are believable yet not surprising to me anymore. What really gets me is how we're going to discuss this but nothing in real life will ever come of the truth. I guess I'm sort of frustrated that all the things we're discovering don't seem to make any difference and these sort of operations continue

Would you rather delude yourself that instances such as these are just a few bad apples being rotten, rather then the whole barrel? Disillusionment does not necessarily have to be a bad thing. Even though it doesn't feel good.

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Originally Posted by Monkey King

I would actually be very surprised if any impeachment hearings ever got anywhere. I don't think I trust the Democrats to have their shit together enough to actually manage something like that, no matter how much control they might get in Congress this November.

Of course, I wouldn't trust the democrats. From a historical prespective it was Republicans, like Goldwater that forced Nixon out of office. I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans would bail on Bush if they thought that hurt their chances this year and in '08. Maybe impeachment hearings spearheaded by a Republican '08 presidential hopeful? History seems to like to repeat itself. Which is good news for the Democrats in '08.

As for the obscure law that somehow allows State Legistlators to kick off impeachment proceedings... weirder laws have been dug up and successfully utilized.

Originally Posted by Eleo

I have no idea what you're getting at.

You probably will someday. Don't worry about it.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Eleo

Actually, you could elaborate on what you said previously, and that would make you seem like less of an ass.

Easy. No offense was mean't.

My point was that you are (or at least sound like) you're disillusioned with the way things are politically. Just like a lot of other people in this thread. All I was saying is that while people assume that being dissatisfied with the way things are is a bad thing. They never look at the positive aspect of it. Nothing would have ever changed if people at one point or another, had they just accepted the way things were on any given issue.

An example today is Mayday. There's plenty of discontent people out protesting today. Whether I agree with their prespective is irrelevent. The overall point is they're not satisfied, and trying to redress their wrongs the only way they know how. Satisfaction tends to breed a sort of political apathy. So it's a refreshing change that disillusionment has brought about in one instance.

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