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[DS] How do you get 3,000 pikachus on a bus? POKEMON!
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Old Jul 13, 2006, 05:57 PM #1 of 1579
Those are some really freaky looking creatures. I'm almost speechless just looking at them. And not a good kind of speechless. As for the list of creatures to appear in the new game, when will we finally see the baby form of Kangaskan become something besides a child in a pouch? Never? Crap.

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Old Jul 15, 2006, 06:44 PM #2 of 1579
The way I see it, we need a new combination of starting types. Maybe electric/flying/grass. No, electric's jsut resistant to grass. Hmm... Maybe electirc/water/ground. Yes, that would do fine...

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Old Jul 17, 2006, 04:32 PM #3 of 1579
Something seems wrong with not having to work at all to get a decent Dark or Psychic Pokémon. {sighs}

Anyways, this new fighting system makes me anxious. The last time they changed the system, the new Pokémon were, overall, superior to the others. Useful ones like Cloyster were noticeably not as powerful. I seriously hope this does not occur again.

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Old Jul 19, 2006, 01:32 PM #4 of 1579
Obviously, as usually is the case, one starter will be better suited for early Gym battling than the others. The early Gym structure will fall into place with whichever starter the production team wants to be better. In the first and fourth series it was Bulbasaur, with Squirtle being next. In G/S/C it was Cyndaquil, with Totodile being next. In Ruby and Sapphire, Treecko and Mudkip were about tied, unusually, at least in terms of talking about the first three gyms. In any case, there's always one of the three that is more challenging to raise. In Diamond and Pearl, I predict this to be either the Fighting or Dark starter.

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Old Jul 31, 2006, 06:15 PM #5 of 1579
Is there any word yet on how many Pokémon will be included in the games? I seriously doubt all of them will be in there, though that would be nice, but I'd really like some kind of estimation.

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Old Aug 4, 2006, 02:45 PM #6 of 1579
We get a rhino, a kangaroo, and some Hoothoot-Eevee thing? At least these beasts seem somewhat normal.
Originally Posted by DarkDraco911
Will any pokemon from past games be involved??
Of course there will be. I mean, I already know that there's going to be a baby Mr. Mime and an evolved form for Sneasel. (I think there was something else, too...)

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Old Aug 5, 2006, 05:36 PM #7 of 1579
The Grass one looks interesting only because I immediately thought, "Ooh! They've crossed Chikorita and Squirtle!" If this one's anything like the last Grass starter...

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Old Aug 7, 2006, 03:32 PM #8 of 1579
Originally Posted by WraithTwo
Okay, I like the design of the new starters, but I am kind of disappointed by what they are based on. Not only is this the billionth monkey we've seen, but this will be the second turtle STARTER!!!
I can only think of three monkeys (Mankey, Primeape, and Aipom).

Strictly looking at design purposes, only a few of the R/S/E creatures appeal to me, mosty notably Spoink (and Grumpig) and Beldum (and his evolutions). Sure, a good number of them are interesting in regards to type combination and movesets, but most look odd when compared to their predecessors in the first two sets of games.

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Old Sep 12, 2006, 07:35 AM #9 of 1579
Wait. There's going to be a baby Chansey?

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Old Sep 24, 2006, 12:05 PM #10 of 1579
I'd like the ability to go back and fight the Gym Leaders every once in a while. In Ruby/Sapphire, they were listed in the Trainer's Eyes, but they never became active again. And I love the notion of a legendary Water/Dragon.

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Old Sep 26, 2006, 06:31 PM #11 of 1579
Originally Posted by Metal Sphere
That and do I see Magneton, Likitung and Magmar's evolutions?
A Likitung evolution? Happy day! The tongued pink one finally gets his due.

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Old Sep 26, 2006, 06:48 PM #12 of 1579
They also seem to have included evolved forms of Aipom, Tangela, Yanma, and Misdreavus.

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Old Sep 26, 2006, 09:39 PM #13 of 1579
Originally Posted by Metal Sphere
  • Grass Eevee (Chloreon)
  • Ice Eevee (Glaceon)
More Eevee evolutions? I've been wanting a Grass one for years. Next up, we need a simple Normal evolution.

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Old Sep 26, 2006, 11:29 PM #14 of 1579
It could just be called Eveleon.

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Old Sep 27, 2006, 12:05 PM #15 of 1579
That Legendary one reminds me of Armaldo.

I am starting to like some of the new designs. Is that 82 supposed to be a baby Hoppip?

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Old Sep 27, 2006, 12:27 PM #16 of 1579
I thought one of the creatures on that site looked like a Nosepass evolution.

Does anyone know how many Pokémon are going to be in this one? I am seriously waiting for the game where all can be found within the two released games.

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Old Sep 27, 2006, 12:41 PM #17 of 1579
I meant how many can we actually get within the game(s). Maybe I'll just have to wait and see.

Oh, and the only feature I would truly want right now is multiple file-saves.

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Old Sep 28, 2006, 01:31 PM #18 of 1579
Regigigas? I think that's the first time a new Legendary has been based on old ones. Or maybe it's an evolved/blended Legendary! Or maybe, it's a Legendary that gives birth to other Legendaries! Okay, probably not either of those...

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Old Sep 28, 2006, 01:55 PM #19 of 1579
Do they level up the same, though? In the past, trading between old versions and new versions was like trading to a new trainer. In this instance, a new trainer can catch them out right. Is the bonus EXP, lowered stat points still there for this system?

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Old Sep 28, 2006, 05:49 PM #20 of 1579
Thank you for putting together that list. So, it's a baby Chimecho, no Hoppip. And Victreebel and Lapras get alternates? I sort of see why Victreebel gets one, but Lapras? Hmm.

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Old Sep 28, 2006, 06:11 PM #21 of 1579
Undoubtedly, though, one could have a good creature to combat it.

There were eight legendaries in Ruby/Sapphire. Maybe they're making do without a Latios/Latias counterpart? I really don't want to chase things again.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 10:09 AM #22 of 1579
Originally Posted by Sin Ansem
As well as the pure dark type no one outside this board seems to care about...
I don't see what's so exciting about a new pure Dark one. We've had Absol, Umbreon, and Mightyena. None of them were powerful. Pure Dark just doesn't have a lot of options in it. That's why, in Ruby/Sapphire, I worked with Sableye. The lack of weakness is great. (His stats could be better, though.)

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Old Sep 29, 2006, 10:58 AM #23 of 1579
Dark will only be decent if there are decent Dark moves. That's what was lacking in the past. So, if what you claim it true, this new one could be interesting.

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Old Sep 29, 2006, 01:41 PM #24 of 1579
Originally Posted by Metal Sphere
Oh, and yes, Hippopotasu is a Hippo, though his evolution is really creepy.
Ooh, I want that hippo now! I want that thing to be one of, if not the, greatest Ground species ever. It'll be hard to top Groudon, though...

I'm going to use logic to see which starter I should pick:

Dodaitoise is Grass/Ground. This makes it weak to Flying. It also makes it double-weak to Ice. Being double-weak to anything isn't very appealing.

Goukazaru is Fire/Fighting. Such a combo makes it weak to Flying, Water, Ground, and Psychic. It may not be double-weak to anything, but it has more weaknesses than Dodaitoise.

Empelt is Water/Steel. It'll be weak to Ground, Fighting, and Electric. Like Goukazaru, it isn't double-weak to anything. However, it can't be hit by Poison attacks. It also has fewer weaknesses than Goukazaru.

Comparing them to each other, both Dodaitoise's Ground and Goukazaru's second types trump Empelt's. Gouzakaru gains an extra type before the other two. Dodaitoise has the fewest weaknesses, but has that one double-weakness.

Okay. I'm picking Poochama. As Empelt it may be weak to the other two, but it seems better overall. Plus, it looks the best.

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Old Sep 29, 2006, 02:39 PM #25 of 1579
I don't have base stats. I'm saying that Empelt is weak to his counterparts. Both have super-effective types against it.

I'll try again:

Empelt is Water/Steel. Dodaitoise is Grass/Ground. Goukazaru is Fire/Fighting. Dodaitoise isn't weak to both counterparts. Goukazaru may be the weakest, actually. It has more weaknesses than the other two and is weak to both of its counterparts (Water to Fire, Ground to Fire). Considering the types of the other two, though, I think Empelt might have a little trouble. That Steel type may be going to waste.

So, it's not so much that Empelt is weak. It's just that it may be weaker than Dodaitoise.

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