[Movie] WWE/TNA fanfiction thread

Jericho fueded with Cena up to Summerslam 2005 and the night afterwards. Cena beat him at SS 05, and then Jericho wanted a rematch. Bischoff agreed to it but said if Jericho lost (which he did), he'd be fired (which he was).

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Defintely a shame. After such a long title reign, it only seemed right that Cena lose it to someone.

If Orton's suspension was truly delayed, then he'll get it now with someone being a shock champion. The question is, who would be the shock champion. Maybe HBK? He's been rumored to have gone through some training with some younger wrestlers a few weeks ago so that would make you think he MIGHT be on the mends. And he has history with Orton, so it would only make sense for him to get payback by beating Orton, AND getting one last shot for the title.

A shame they couldn't have had Y2J attack Cena to put him out. Would make perfect sense storyline wise and would give Cena a feud to come back to.

The list of top faces is rather small now. Trips, um, err, hmmm. Ok, so trips is about it. I guess they could turn Kennedy face, and then re-turn him back to heel when Cena makes his return (or have Cena come back as a heel in annoyance for the fans booing him after he got injured, by accident, by Kennedy). The only problem is Kennedy's rep is shot after what has happened the last few months,.

And how ironic that the angle was trying to have Coach strip Cena of the title, and all was said and done, he was stripped of the title anyway.

Oh and Slash, McMahon DID win the title about ten years ago. He beat Trips and ended his first reign with help of Austin. I'm more surprised McMahon didn't just beat Booker T for the WCW title so that he could say "I held all the titles".

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Yeah, Dreamer should have been able to face Punk, not big daddy V. That would have been a nice match (Dreamer Vs. Punk), and also would have allowed Big Daddy V to save face instead of somehow losing (either by Punk rolling him up, or him getting himself DQ'ed) which will have him lose some of his build-up.

Austin's heel turn was medicore at best. People just didn't want to boo him. It was like, he was trying his hardest, but it wasn't happening. Sting's heel turn was probably the only one just as bad.

I seriously could see HBK beating Orton for the title. I don't forsee Kennedy because 1) he got beat down by Cena quickly, 2) his rep has taken a massive hit after getting suspended despite what he had said, 3) he doesn't have much if any momentum going in and 4) he's a heel, as is Orton. Now, you can do Heel Vs. Heel matches, but after this match, where are they going to go? Are they going to continue their feud? Highly unlikely.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Some more thoughts on the Cena thing.

While a lot of people dislike Cena, it's still a darn shame that after 13 months, he loses the title due to injury. This is a blow both to Cena, and his opponents (as well as the WWE concerning long-term planning), as not only has Cena been champ for the past 13 months, he has held the title the past 27 out of the past 31 months (with Edge and RVD filling in the gaps respectively).

I think the saddest thing though in all of this is I am hearing people say, "Yes, thank goodness he got injured" or something to that effect. It's fine to boo or dislike the character, John Cena, but not the human, John Cena. They are two different people. It's the human, John Cena, who will now be out for six months, up to even possibly a year, and anyone cheering THAT needs to sit back and remember what pro wrestling is, and what it is not.

I was thinking a good bit of possible candidates of those who could hold the title, and those who could not. There seem to be several reason for and against almost everyone holding the title:

Randy Orton - Obviously is red-hot with his string of injuries on HBK, RVD, and now Cena. Beat down legends like Flair and Rhodes getting even more heel heat. Well, with the younger audience anyway (I sincerely hope people aren't so immature that they start a chant like "Thank you Orton" at the PPV or next Raw). Definitely has a lot of athletic skill and obviously good promo skills. A shame his and Cena's feud, which has been properly built up, didn't last. He does have some things against him though. His current rep is supposedly not so good, with his latest thing being trashing a hotel some months back. He has been suspended twice due to the wellness policy (I think), and was pencilled in for another suspension (if he preivously didn't have a second suspension, then he would have had one now) but somehow got off the hook. However, with teheat on the WWE these days, even being WWE champion can't save him if he tests positive.

Kennedy - A decent in-ring worker (despite injuring Cena) and obviously well-over with the fans. Can talk a good game. Kennedy though, is amazing in how he has a year that was going to be full of high points (won MITB, was going to win the Heavyweight title, way going to be McMahon's son, possible would win the world title, etc), is filled with low points, the latest being injuring Cena. Would be an acceptable replacement in the eyes of the fans, which is pretty frickin' hard to do. Would have been an excellent heel to have taken the title off Cena, getting all his heel heat back after injuring Cena (could have made an angle where even he can injure people with the simpliest moves). If he needed to turn face, could have done so with Cena coming back as a heel saying the "people didn't care I got hurt". Unfortunately, him injuring Cena may be a black mark with management seeing how high they are on Cena. He also has been gone for several months save for the small return at Summerslam (where he lost to Umaga). FInally, his rep has been shot with his comments and then recent suspension that contradicted his own comments.

HBK - Would be an acceptable replacement as champ in the eyes of the fans. Fans have been wanting HBK to hold the championship for years now, and were really rallying behind him at Mania. THey could easily go with him having one last run as champ, possible ending at Survivor Series (with him being hte one who ends up screwed as reference and memorial to Survivor Seris 97). He even beat Cena in their last one-on-one encounter, thereby rebuilding the credibility he had previously as the man who could beat CEna. However, he is currently injured and may not be ready to return just yet. Furthermore, given his track record since his return in 2002, I could see him losing to Orton even in his return match.

Y2J - Might seem like rushing things with the return of Y2J but the WWE is really low on options. Obviously is very popular with the fans, and more or less the total package concerning wrestling. Oh yeah, he's also clean and is in good relations with management. The only things against him is the possibilty that he is NOT returning at No Mercy (and that may have even been delayed with the situation concerning the world title), the fact that it may be too soon, and that Y2J seems happy-go-lucky concerning wins and losses.

Val Venis - Uh, hahaha. Well, I don't forsee him going for the title, but I might forsee Orton beating him down backstage in order to get a little extra heat by saying, "I just took out the champ, and the people's choice".

Kane - Kane has not held a world title for almost ten years. This would be a shocking way return to main events for Kane, and would "fix" all those previous times Kane should have had another reign (the last being the Khali situation). However, the problem is Kane is not like he was five, or ten years ago. He has lost a ton of momentum, and while he is seen as a big guy, he is not seen as a serious contender for anything but secondary titles, if that, now. His fan base isn't what it was either. Also, he has the look of a monster-not a world champion, which is another strike against him,

Undertaker - So yeah, he is suppose to face Batista in the future and will be with Kane in a tag tema match for the titles. however, what if he were to get DQ'd, then come out in the main event to face Orton? Those two have a past history and a decent feud. They have put out good matches, and each have several wins over the other. Furthermore, Taker has not been on Raw since 2002, and Dark Side Taker hasn't been on there since 1999. So Taker coming to Raw may freshen things up, both for him,and for Raw, and set up a potential feud between him and Cena. Finally, fans liked him holding the title, and many (okay maybe not, but I felt this) felt it was a darn shame he didn't get that last, long title reign he was promised. HEre's a chance to make it all up. On the negative side, him coming out seems to be a loose in terms of storylines, and it would be a huge blow to a now recovering Smackdown!

Triple H - While I am sure many would like to see this match, I can't see it happening right now. He is currently feuding with Umaga, Carlito, and McMahon. I think the fans would be displeased seeing HHH taking Cena's title, without actually beating Cena. That would weaken Triple H's image right there, and cause him to turn heel possibly in the future (unless he were to win the title, then lose it at Survivor Series).

Flair - POssibly a dark horse, but a good dark horse. Initially, they were going to go with "one last reign" with Flair. That angle fizzled out and so he joined evolution. ONce that was done, he won the IC title, showing he could "still do it". after that, rumors went about that they were still thinking of having him go for the title one last time, or at least go through a series of losses, then wins, before his final one at Wrestlemania. Of course, none of that really happened, and Flair left in annoyance. Both sides are talking now though, and so this might just be the right way to bring Flair back. Flair, the past of wrestling, and representing old school, could face Orton, the cocky future, representing the now and to be of wrestling. They had a wonderful match a few years back, and both have wins over each other. Flair's title win would not have to be a long one (and probably wouldn't be, maybe even just one night), but would be fitting for Flair and his fans. On the other side though, they have to get Flair to come back. Also, it seems unlikely that Flair would win the title, as that woudl kill Orton's momentum. Finally, while not a huge blow to Smackdown! due to Flair's reduced role, it would take some more talent away from there...

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Hm, prediction time:

World Title
Read my above post concerning the world title. Oh, and somehow I thought Taker was going to team with Kane against MVP/Hardy. My bad. Nonetheless, Taker is still an option here.

Woman's Title
Beth by Pinfall. Ashley gets a bit of a come back, but then boom, fisherman buster, and then a pin.

HHH Vs Umaga
What was said in the above post.

Punk Vs Visera
Punk wins via DQ due to the returning Morrison.

Rey Vs Finley
Rey beat him a month ago. Finley goes over this time.

Batista/Khali
Batista.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Oh, and through all this Cena talk, it seems that:

1.) Nigel won the ROH world title a few nights prior. Shocking given that he lost multiple times prior to this point.

2.) And TNA's world champ, Angle, got a DUI, and is getting a lot of bad publicity for it. Given he is the torch carrier for the company, I wonder how this would impact his reign, if at all.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Val's closest time to shine was when he feuded with Mic Foley and won. After that, his star faded.

I don't think people were really rooting for Val but more to play with the vote. I heard Snitskey got second.

Some thoughts/facts on the PPV:

This reminded me of WCW towards the end. DDP had the title, lost it to Sting, then won it back at the end of the night. The only difference was Sting only defended the title once when he lost it back to DDP in the four-way dance.

Orton and HHH now hold the record of the 4th and 5th guys respectively to hold both brands major titles. The first three were Angle, Undertaker and Edge. It's amazing that the latter four made this accomplishment within the last seven months. Angle did this about twenty months ago.

In a bit of irony, people were talking about how long the title reigns of Cena was. Of course, he just go past holding a record-shattering reign of nearly 400 days, beating Savage and holding the title longer than any other champion in 19 years. However, if we "freeze frame" at this point, you can honestly say that on average there has been a new Raw brand champ every three months (the four champs being Cena, Orton, HHH, and Orton again).

If you are willing to add in a 13th month, then it's about two and half months on average (Edge, Cena, Orton, HHH, and Orton).

HHH title reigns are the shortest it seems as a face. He held it for one month, losing to Hogan as a face about five years back, and now for about two hours.

And Orton's title reigns have been just as long. Granted, he now is starting his third one, but his previous two were about a month, and twenty minutes respectively. Hopefully he can get through the night (although I am guessing either a.) HHH challenging him for a title match and Regal/Vince saying no, b.) them having a title match and HHH wins by DQ due to Vince, or c.) HHH facing Orton in a non-title match for a chance at the title at Survivor Series).

Orton now has the record for the shortest "back and forth" title reigns. The previous owner was Austin (lost the title to Kane, won it back a day later). Well, world titles anyway (RVD did it faster with the IC title, and let's not forget about the Hardcore title switches).

Orton is the seconrd person awarded a world title. Ironically, Triple H was the first (awarded the title after defeating Undertaker a week prior).

I think HHH may be the first face to lose a last man standing match since Mic Foley against Vader waaaay back in '93. Granted, I might have missed something in ECW, but concerning WCW/WWE(or F), I seriously can't think of anything.

The happiest guy in all of this MUST be Kane. Now, not one but TWO men have shorter title reigns than he does. I never thought someone would hold a shorter title reign than Kane during this day and age, but boom, two men do.

Okay...actually three. Yoko held it for two minutes.

Oooo, whoops, four. Andre held it just as long.

Well....maybe five if you count the Million Dollar Man buying the world title as a title reign. I don't, so let's just keep it at four. At any rate, Kane is a very happy man now.

Additional Spam:
Edit: Whoops, it was 94 that Foley lost that match against Vader. 93 was the ear incident.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Goldfish: Yep, you are right. I think I am getting my dates confused a bit...

FELIPE NO

and so Michaels will win for a third time at the man chosen for a title shot.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I see this as follows:

Cyber Sunday, Michaels faces and defeats Orton...by DQ.

At survivor series, in a surprising twist, Orton locks on the Sharpshooter on HBK, with Trips and Vince ringing the bell. Orton, Trips and Vince then run off as a ten year reactment of what happened in Montreal, with the irony being it was Shawn who got scrwed this time.

Shawn and HHH feud. Orton gets a fresh, new opponent. I would have said he'd face the returning Cena, but Cena won't be back before 'Mania.

Most amazing jew boots

Ok, Ok, so a properly built Jericho feuds with ORton and faces him at Mania 24. Not really.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I could forsee this as part of long term planning with Jericho.

Have him feud with Orton. Build him up and let him beat Orton at Mania for the title. Then, have him turn heel on Cena, feuding with Cena up to a match at Summerslam 08. He could even screw Cena, win at SS08 and continue their feud until Survivor Series 08.

Granted, again, loooooooooooong term planning, but hey.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

So much for the New Hart Foundation. Teddy Hart is gone.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

And placing their tag team titles on a guy who didn't even get one offensive move in for his team (aside from spray painting his opponents).

I was speaking idiomatically.

Well, even Bret has stated that despite his reservations against Vince, that the WWE is the place to work.

Oh, and um, nevermind about that stat concerning last man standing matches and faces. After doing a bit of researching, I found Jericho (as a face) lost to Trips back in 2000 in such a match. Ugh.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Interestingly enough, I was just reading Jerry Lawler's book in which what you said Kos was what he said about WWE contracts. That is, they can release you at any time for any reason while it's hard for you to get out of the contract.

You can't blame Vince for being paranoid, but at the same time he didn't need to do what he did. I think the best reason why (aside from Bret's honesty) is that if Bret REALLY wanted to take the belt with him, he could have done just that be bringing a modified version of the title on Nitro and saying, "As you all know, I never gave up. The referee said I did, but as you all know, that is not the case. Hence, I am still the world champion" and then go on to challenge Hogan/Sting to a unification match. ANd given the circumstances, people would have bought it.

Television time is useful....if it helps promote the talent. HOwever, if you constantly are losing on T.V., very few will take you seriously (save for joke polls like the one WWE just had with Venis/Snitskey being on top), and once you're released, your market value won't be that high.

Interestingly enough, working for the WWE would theoritically be less injury prone if not for all the extra dates (usually in the form of house shows) that one has to go through. They limit the high-risk moves talent can use at times (remember when piledrivers and the like weren't allowed several years back?), and seemingly limit the moves wrestlers can use overall.

FELIPE NO

Well, from a marketing standpoint, I can understand all the house shows. People may think, "Hey, I might not get to see a live event, but there's a house show, so that's SOMETHING!".

I still feel that Val won solely as a joke from the fans. I mean, maybe I am wrong, but i could almost see some fans thinking, "Wouldn't it be funny if Val won?" and voted for him. Then a few more see Val a bit in the lead and think, "Haha, be so funny if he won!" and in goes their votes for the big valbowski. And this is nothing against Val's skills, he is a well-tuned performer. However, he's also the guy whose barely on television anymore, and I thought was going to be released last spring, that suddenly the fans put the votes in for.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

So, prediction time.

Gaunlet Match for Woman's Title
Half of those competing I have never seen before. I might as well flip a ten sided coin on this one. And that landed on Gail Kim.

Monster Ball
Eh, no one is really built here anymore. Two years or so ago Rhyno managed to win this, a battle royal, and the title. If Judias heals up enough that he can suddenly compete, then he will win it. Else, it will be Abyss.

2/3 Tables Match
Obviously, each teamwill put one of their guys through a table. I forsee the Steiners putting one of the Dudley's througha table, but the ref not seeing it. Dudleys then win by putting the other Steiner through a table.

Tag Team Title match
People are not so thrilled that Styles wil team with Tomko for the belts. Well, I actually don't mind the team. They have been going on and on about Tomko's other tag title reign, and Styles is just a great wrestler. I forsee them winning the straps, and this being sorta the last thing before either Tomko or Styles turning face.

Cage Vs Joe W/ Matt Morgan as the special enforcer
It would seem that Morgan will turn heel here. i think it's a bit too soon. He'll get in Cage's and Joe's face, but ultimately Joe will win it. Seeds will be placed for Morgan (and Cornette's) heel turn down the road.

Triple X Vs Lax
Remember when Triple H was an awesome team that was hard to beat? Anyway, obviusly, Triple X does not have that third man advantage as Daniels has another match. LAX wins it and goes on to face Tomko/Styles.

X-Division Match
They have obviously been building Daniels up for another X-Division reign. A bit of a shame as a world title reign would have been refreshing. Unfortunately, we are in a different age and era than five years ago when Daniels would have had a chance. Daniels wins the X-division title here.\

World Title
Originally, this would have been a no brainer. Angle would have beat Sting with the Ankle Lock. However, now there is the recent problems Angle has been in, and the fact that TNA needs their rep to stay good. Hence, Sting becoming world champion, albeit a short, transitional champion, is a possibility. Unfortunately, there is no one really that is built up to face the champ at this point, especially in the face department. So, with that being said, ANgle retains.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Hm, not bad on my part. I really should have went with my gut feelings in some of these matches. Had I done so, I would have only been off one match. Still, I did manage to get five of them. Unfortunately,

Spoiler:

Sting Vs. Angle - The Rematch. Talk about a loss-loss situation. If Sting wins (other than by DQ which may very well happen), it will hurt Angle's wrestling rep. If Angle wins, well, we have seen what is going on with him in the news.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I think the last time they were there they did something similar. I think they had Vince and company beat Robbie Brookside, whom is a fairly huge british wrestler.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Or...Jackie Gayda's botchfest of a match. Purely entertaining, and even more so as it threw the whole tough enough idea right back in WWE's face.

Some of those videos are funny...some though..ouch. Watching LIta crash face first on the concrete, Goldberg knock himself out, or H paralyzing himself after a failed Lionsault makes me cringe.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Well, I was about to say that but yeah, so much for ECW standing on it's own two feet. A shame too...ECW was like, a way for those guys whom Vince would NEVER give a chance to have an opportunity to highlight the show. Granted, ECW didn't really have too much in terms of superstars, but I can only see this being the end of ECW.

Oh, and Davari was released. Poor guy got jobbed into next week. Also...Booker and his wife are also gone.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Well, in truth, save for the hiccup match/feud with him/Trips (and Lawler), he has been gone since his injury back in March. And even then there were reports of him wanting to leave. Heck, I heard rumors of him wanting to retire this year, LAST year. Of course, I always hear those rumors (right now, they are saying Flair is going to retire next year), so it doesn't hold much until it actually happens.

Of course, rumors were going around that he was unhappy before the brand shuffle (which is now useless with regards to ECW & Smackdown!) because he was going to leave Smackdown! where he made an impact to either 1.) ECW, which is seen as the weakest brand and just a midstep between OVW and the other two brands, and 2.) Raw, in which Trips, Cena, HBK, and Orton are miles ahead of him.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Which is almost the number of world champs altogether. Okay, maybe it's not THAT bad but...

FELIPE NO

And so, hot of the heels of a huge angle, Kristal is now (supposedly) released.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?