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Old Jun 1, 2007, 09:27 AM #76 of 3609
Concerning the Big Show in WCW...yes, he was limited, but not nearly as limited as Khali. Show actually could do some fairly athletic stuff at times including drop kicks. Of course, he put on a great deal of weight (and obtained several injuries) that grounded any aerial moves he had.

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Old Jun 1, 2007, 09:32 AM #77 of 3609
Yeah, he was marketed as Andre's son.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 1, 2007, 07:26 PM #78 of 3609
Basically, Andre ripping the necklace off of Hogan all those years back.

Well, Wright did it too, with Hogan replying, "This isn't happening again!" or something like that.

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Old Jun 2, 2007, 10:39 AM #79 of 3609
Eh? Dumbass? Confused on that comment (as to who is being referred to...HOPEFULLY not me!).

Yeah, Wright is Paul Wright, or The Giant. The Giant/Big Show is just going by his real name now, and in his last match (he wrestled Hogan at some smaller show as Hogan was trying to one-up Vince since he's pissed at Vince) wrestled that name (Paul Wright).

Ironically, I saw Lesnar's SSP where he did it successfully in OVW (WWE's training ground), but never saw the botched one until after I got the tape and someone mentioned it to me. It's pretty scary to watch. IT reminds me of H in FMW who had similar botches (with one of them, sadly, ending his career after he was paralyzed). And yeah, it was Mania XIX. Mania XVIII was Jericho/HHH/Steph. Mania XVII was Rock/Austin II. Mania XVI was the fourway with Show/Rock/HHH/Foley. And going upwards, Mania XX was, of course, HHH/Benoit/HBK.

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Old Jun 3, 2007, 05:53 PM #80 of 3609
Not a sure thing Slash. Supposedly people are pissed at the openly-known fact that this is RVD's last match and wanted to keep things a surprise. So they might have him win, then lose a few weeks later (although I am fairly positive THOSE rumors are there to give people who know for sure this is RVD's last match and he will lose, second thoughts).

Cena will beat Khali, after being beaten by him.

Edge will beat Batista. Batista can't turn heel because if he does, there aren't any built up faces who are worthy enough to face Edge (save for perhaps, Benoit), at the moment.

Why is this match not the main event (even if, ironically, it does mean having someone over 60 in the main event), and by that I mean Lashley Vs Vince. At any rate, it is the ECW PPV, and Lashley will win it back.

Kane will lose to Henry.

Punk's team will probably lose the table's match.

And I don't care about the rest of the matches.

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Old Jun 4, 2007, 05:22 AM #81 of 3609
Spoiler:
Okay, so...

Batista looks to be having that long-expected heel turn. Actually, I am SURPRISE given that he is the only face on the roster that can compete against Edge AND...

Benoit is rumored to have been told that he will go to Raw.

So yeah...I hope Kennedy comes back REAL fast.

Kane PASSED OUT to Mark Henry's bear hug? Okay, at LEAST have Kane lose via a splash on a chair or SOMETHING.

Hardyz Vs WGTT for the tag titles? GOod, although saw for Shelton as had he shown charisma, he could have been a future world champion.

Cena won't lost the title. It isn't his fault either. He supposedly ASKED to lose the title and get out of main event feuds for a while as even he realized his character is somewhat stale.

However, Cena is a good person to put the title on. He wrestles a fairly conservative style, has a decent amount of experience, and is young meaning he can be with the WWE for many years. He also can talk, which is an important factor (see Benjamin, and so many others) in making or breaking potential stars.

Furthermore, the idea of Khali winning the title, or Umaga is just...scary. They can't talk, and Khali can barely wrestle. Him being champion=no. RIght now, until HHH or HBK comes back, Cena is the best pick.

Candice won in a wonderful, technical match in which she can show her children and grandchildren as a fine display of wrestling. Or not. *Sigh*, does anyone remember the FIRST ONS, and what it stood for...say..oh...two years ago?

Actually, there is SOME hope in the form of Punk who won his match. Good for him, but they really need to let him shine. He has had matches of all types and has done well, but needs to go for that next big push. Too bad it wasn't HE who beat Vince instead of...

Lashley who beat Vince for the ECW title in a match in the middle of the card despite it being an ECW event (okay, so maybe not anymore, but you get the idea). Nice to see Vince NOT holding the title, but seriously, why Lashley instead of say, Punk? Punk who provide that shock value, and could have a nice feud with a freshly turned Lashley. Punk could even win it in ECW style fashion (goading McMahon to defend the strap), perhaps at THE END OF THE NIGHT like the WORLD TITLE match should have been.



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Old Jun 4, 2007, 06:19 PM #82 of 3609
Point well taken SuperSonic. Actually, I thought Yoko DID talk when he turned face after so many years, but that is besides the point.

Still though, Khali is far more limited than Yoko, and well, he's also supposedly injured now.


Still, being able to talk is a fairly important part for MOST champions. Rock, Austin, Hogan, they all held the title numerous times because of their outstand promo ability (which shined even if their...ok, Hogan's work ethic was not so good).

Think of it this way...Benoit was world champion once, and nowadays I am hearing he won't again because of his [lack of] promo skills.

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Old Jun 4, 2007, 11:36 PM #83 of 3609
Yep, khali (and Umaga it turns out too) are injured. It's just that there are so many injured wrestlers right now, that they are trying to suck it up to keep their main event spots.

Cena winning again? I would like to say I'm surprised but...I'm not. Probably this will be the Umaga/Khali fued. They seemed to have planted the seeds of that a week or so ago.

Cade and Murdock are the champs? Hope THIS title reign goes longer than their last. Too bad there aren't any other face teams for them to face now (and even the Hardyz aren't just on Raw as Vince has reportedly decided to keep them on seperate brands even...well, if that matters anymore, anyway).

As for Benoit, well...just keep on watching Raw...he's rumored to return to Raw next week. Probably a good thing too as he's just in time to fued with Cena.

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Old Jun 5, 2007, 05:04 AM #84 of 3609
True Slash, I did enjoy Benoit's 23 and a half second promos.

And yeah, looks like we are going pre-1993, except with the WWE's website on the Internet added in. Oh well, it's not like I ever VISIT their website anyway. Now, I have an even less incentive to visit it.

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Old Jun 6, 2007, 04:33 AM #85 of 3609
See, it MIGHT work for a short reign. Look at good ol Kane and his one-day wonder of a title reign.

However, again, the idea of Khali or Umaga with the title (ok, more Khali) is just scary.

And...
Spoiler:

Edge beat Benoit. So, so much for Benoit Vs Edge as a big match. Guess a HEEL Benoit is going to Raw now to take on Cena


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Old Jun 6, 2007, 07:49 AM #86 of 3609
McMahon Vs Cena Vs Lashley Vs Edge in a unification match...with McMahon winning it! there we go!

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Old Jun 7, 2007, 06:18 AM #87 of 3609
September...but hey, a few more months, and he'll have Diesel's and JBL's title reigns beat.

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Old Jun 7, 2007, 08:55 PM #88 of 3609
Jarrett wasn't THAT bad of a champion, although some of his wins were fairly ridiculous (the part where Raven handcuffed him and the gathering beat him down, but Jarrett STILL won stands out)./

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Old Jun 8, 2007, 06:27 PM #89 of 3609
Nah, they turned on Raven sometime later on.

And generally the contracts in wrestling are set up that you don't get paid AND have to sit out the rest of your contract. Furthermore, while wrestlers can request it, NWATNA doesn't have to allow it, and won't because the last thing they want to do is give WWE something to make them more popular.

And I doubt they will use BG and RD correctly, given the comments they both have made towards HHH, and also just how the WWE treats returning talent in general.

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Old Jun 10, 2007, 06:23 PM #90 of 3609
X-Pac is supposedly been in contact with TNA and is rumored to return there. So that, and the fact that HHH isn't fond of BG/RD AND that DX is basically done makes me thing they won't be brought back.

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Old Jun 11, 2007, 11:36 PM #91 of 3609
So...
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Cena now gets to beat the top contenders of SMackdown (Booker), ECW (Lashley), and Raw (Orton) with Foley added in as a legend? Ugh.

Snitsky actually had somewhat of a fit on ECW with his weird, monster like angle. What is he going to do on Raw? No one will care about his squashes nor have the patience to wait for him to be built up.

Speaking of ECW...tHe ECW title, which had already been devalued by having McMahon holding it for several months, with Show who was barely mobile, and Lashley whose mic skills need seriously work, is now vacant? They could at least have had Benoit take the strap from Lashley so the lineage wouldn't be broken BARELY A YEAR AFTER THE TITLE WAS MADE.

The Great Khali has managed to see the world!...well, the WWE's world as he has managed to go through all three brands within a YEAR and back to where he started. I guess he'll feud with Edge(???) given that...

Kennedy is now on Raw, Benoit is now on ECW, and Undertaker is gone until January. I really hope Trips or HBK is planning to go to Smackdown! because after Edge's title defense against Batista, there isn't anyone left for him to defend it against. And what happened to the Kennedy~Edge feud anyway? I mean, that had money written all over it, AND It was a ready-made feud for Kennedy when he returned AND a new, fresh feud for Edge, AND a reason for Kennedy to turn face (instead of staying heel despite getting outsmarted by Edge, weakening Kennedy's character overall).

So Vince is the New Undertaker? C'mon now, I am all for suspension of disbelief but 1) this is too outrageous and 2) if this is to get rid of Vince, then there were a lot more, tasteful ways, that would relate to Vince's character, to do so.

I'm sorry, but WWE has just lost it's luster. It demolished an already demolished brand (Smackdown!), takes out some of the best and most well-fit acts in another brand (ECW), and manages to stop feuds that should obviously happen and is to the benefit to the wrestlers, brands, fans and company itself. In place, we get Vince's retarded angle where he is the "New Undertaker".

I have been thinking about it for some time, but I am now going to focus on ROH and other federations.


This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jun 14, 2007, 06:09 PM #92 of 3609
At least we all got to hear from Bret Hart during all of this.

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Old Jun 15, 2007, 10:01 PM #93 of 3609
Yeah, I just heard this myself. She managed quite a number of big star's careers including Flair, Savage, HBK, and Booker T (when he was a part of Harlem Heat).

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 17, 2007, 09:55 AM #94 of 3609
Correction Storm:

Some people don't care about Vince's latest angle...at all.

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Old Jun 18, 2007, 07:49 AM #95 of 3609
Correction Tackey, Smackdown! AND ECW.

I think Davari holds a record for most brand swaps. He started on Raw to manage Hassan, then went to Smackdown! to manage Hassan for a brief time, then back to Raw to manage Angle, went to Smackdown! to manage Angle, then managed Great Khali in Smackdown!, followed by a trip to ECW to continue managing Khali, followed by a move back to Smackdown! after Khali left, finalized with another move back to Raw. Originally, Benoit and Matt Hardy had the most brand moves, but Davari has managed to beat them all in less than half the time they were brand moving.

I suppose it will be Kendrick and London fueding against the Hardyz. Actually, this isn't TOO bad as they are seemingly putting more and more teams on Raw (despite basically leaving Smackdown! and ECW with no one). There is also the WGTT for them to fued with as well.

Sandman to Raw? Um, no. Sandman represents ECW with his act and going anywhere else is stupid. Sandman has a few months left before he leaves the WWE.

The Miz? Well...blah.

The major Brothers to Smackdown? Well, that makes sense, as seeing as how ECW's tag team is really shaping up (not really). Might as well put them on Smackdown! Better yet, might as well UNIFY THE TAG TITLES BECAUSE SMACKDOWN! ONLY HAS TWO TEAMS GOING FOR THEM ANYWAY.

Holly to Smackdown? So, Holly, who has his niche in ECW, is now taken out of it where he will float in Smackdown! Great.

SuperSonic said it best for Kenny. Do the writers EVER think of true, LONG TERM PLANNING?

Regal makes sense...although in all honestly, having him AND Benoit leave Smackdown! at teh same time is a huge blow as it goes for good, technical wrestling. Even more of a shame because it looked like he and Dave Taylor were going to go for Smackdown gold (where IS Taylor? He got injured, then came back).

There MUST be a good reason they brought Victoria to Smackdown! despite the fact that she is one of the THREE female wrestlers who can actually wrestle, right? Oh wait, let's just look at what the writers and all have done within the past year and we know the answer to that one...

Nitro would be good IF they had the television title. He could really pick up his career as a long=reigning ECW TV champ. Sadly, that's not the case, and it's job-time for NItro. IN case you haven't realizedit, Melina DIDN'T get picked to go to ECW, so that means MNM (or the new MNM) have been effectively split up in all three brands.

All of these brand swaps were pointless. Two (or three?) years ago, they did it well, starting with the shocking swap of Cena. Now, they are either predictable and pointless, or unpredictable but stupid. I guess it's back to ROH for me.

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Old Jun 19, 2007, 01:38 AM #96 of 3609
Storm: Well, true, but given how often the Hardyz wrestle together, it doesn't seem to matter anymore. Not that it's a bad thing...

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Old Jun 19, 2007, 08:54 AM #97 of 3609
Trips would be the best to fill the role. I mean, remember the Austin thing? Same deal.

DX itself is not the best to fill this role. Yes, they did tricks and such, but something like this isn't DX's style...it's Trips.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 01:48 AM #98 of 3609
I am trying to make sense of it all.

I came back after being gone for two days to see BREAKING: along with a family death. Then I saw Benoit at the end...and my jaw dropped.

I am not going to believe it until it's proven. Obviously, I have never met Benoit, but from just about everyone, he was kind, caring, patient, and honorable.

I looked up to Bret when I was really young, and then to Benoit after Bret retired. I stil lremember when Benoit wrestled in the tribute match for Owen, and cried when Eddie passed away (along with facing Triple H in Eddie's tribute week).

I think the hardest thing is, I am trying to think of this a bit in wrestling. Ya know, a guy turns 'heel', or is 'injured', but you can't wait for the day he will return. Now, no matter what happens, he is gone.

I was just listening to his theme music this morning...always liked it. Whenever I listen to it, I think back to Mania 20 with him holding the title up high. Crazy that THREE years later, BOTH men who were in that Wrestlemania moment are gone.

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Old Jun 26, 2007, 02:59 AM #99 of 3609
Unfortunately, what you said Kos does make sense.

I am hoping against hope that it is NOT the case, and Benoit did NOT actually do this.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jun 26, 2007, 03:28 AM #100 of 3609
Goldfish, I had that suspicision too. I mean, I would never want to point fingers on something like this, but that thought DID cross my mind. Also, I thought Benoit was off for that time because of surgery, but also burn out. Of course, it COULD be a combination of both.

I guess is, IF this were to be true, what REALLY makes it hard is thinking about him in his tribute match with Bret, crying when Eddie died, his tribute match with Eddie, and so forth. I can only imagine guys like Malenko, Rey, and Chavo, who were even closer to him, how they must be feeling.

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