[General Discussion] Modern classics?

I think the amount of fighting game e-sports surrounding Super Street Fighter IV and Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 guarantees they will be around for a long time, provided they are not replaced by sequels. Other games have been in and out of the 2D rotation (I don't follow the 3D fighting game scene), but these two are the ones people keep coming back to and two of the big games that e-sports and money matches for fighting games has grown up around.

What is funny about Ultimate Marvel is that it looks and plays like a trainwreck at times (full X-Factor comebacks look horrible, but are by design), but it has that "one more game" syndrome dwelling within that leads to people hogging the set-ups.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Yeah, Skullgirls died off pretty quick. Not enough characters and the graphic style is too offputting for a lot of players (it attracted mostly the anime fighters crowd) It seems to be replaced in the mix of tournament games by Persona 4 Arena, which seems to have more staying power at the moment (who knows where this game is going to be even a year from now). No huge surprise there to see it relegated to cult status.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

FFT lost me when I couldn't get out of the string of consecutive battles at the end of Chapter 3 (the second of which I didn't have a chance of winning without auto-potion) and had to restart. Shame on me for not using multiple saves, shame on the game for allowing such a killer design flaw.

I'm hesitant to call it a classic due to the above, but ultimately, it was one of the first SRPG's that most people played, so...yeah. And I'm one of the people that hates the dumbing down of difficulty in RPG's nowadays (I enjoyed the game up until that one point, despite dying a lot).

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Sorry, I'm not psychic enough to foresee skills/items that I'm unable to go back and obtain at a certain point in time. More power to you if you were born with this skill.

Go back and re-read my post (instead of quoting a tiny portion of it) and you'll see I grudgingly and unenthusiastically DID say it was a classic, despite that design flaw.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

One game I really have to throw out is Burnout 3. Just classic, twitch driving arcadey gameplay with all the bells and whistles of then-current graphics and the novelty of car crashes. I haven't played the rest of the games in the series for comparison, but I spent a lot of time not only having fun with Burnout 3, but also thinking about how well designed it was.

Also, before the franchise died in a mess of sequels, Dynasty Warriors 4 was unlike anything I had played before. Part Final Fight, part RTS, part Chinese history lesson, part heavy metal concert...I really enjoyed my time with this game before I got burnt out on its sequels.

Slightly surprised no one has mentioned Ace Combat. Not a lot of good console flying games. Ace Combat 4 was one of my favorite PS2 experiences. Some of those missions were crazy.

And as far as RPG's go, Suikoden V managed to build on the first 2 games in the series nicely. After 3/4/Tactics, I consider this game nothing short of a gaming miracle. Load times were annoying and the early part of the game is slow to get going (I didn't mind, I thought the storytelling was good), but once it kicks into character-collecting mode, it's killer stuff. Shame it pretty much seems to be the last console Suikoden.

I was speaking idiomatically.