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Personally, I'd avoid those sorts of universities. The ones shown on TV that are like "DO IT ONRINE". They sort of reek of lack of reliability. Hate to say it, but if you're going into a hopping, busy, competitive industry, then a four year degree would shine far more than something from DeVry ;p

Jam it back in, in the dark.

You get what you pay for. About 33% of my degree was worthless. But the employers I'm shooting for will be drooling all over themselves seeing what classes I've taken (at a major university, to boot).

Don't have four years? Do you have cancer or something? =p Look, spending four years to set up a nice, smooth path for your life to tread down is worth it.

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Originally Posted by Sassafrass

No offense to you, or anyone else who is working on a degree, but actually possessing a degree these days does not - by any means - ensure you a "nice, smooth path for your life to tread down."

In fact, I know more people who have degrees and have put some heavy-duty blood, sweat and tears into the degree they have.

Too bad they're doing things way below their actual skill level, out of their field of expertise, and getting completely underpaid. And not by their own choice.

Please don't believe that college guarantees you a golden pass to success.

It's better than the alternative of not having a degree. That is what I'm referring to. I said a smooth path. Not a golden-paved road lined with gumdrops and chocolate flowers =p

Some folks get a degree just to have one. Even that will put you above the hefty amount of folks who don't even have collegiate experience. You have folks who don't complete high school. You have folks who don't complete college. Then you have those who do complete college. Then those who go for graduate degrees.

I was also referring to his getting a degree in a computer-oriented field. Technical fields are still in need of employees and if he got a four-year degree from a credible university, he'd have a nice shot at a job *somewhere*. Meanwhile, if you spent a number of years getting degrees from some hoakey mail-order or online-completion college, lots of folks will chuckle at you when you turn your back. Getting a degree at a four-year college shows you have some sort of ability to anchor down and get something done. And that's a nice stepping stone into the work force. Might not put you on a nice road. Might be long as hell. But having a degree makes it much more easy. You could get a job or two without a degree but somewhere down the line, some guy you're interviewing under will think about it and say "wait a second. This guy isn't even a degree-holder."

Those brackets I mentioned earlier (high school, college, graduate degrees, etc) each have a sort of tangible roof of sorts. If you've got at least a bachelor's, you can climb a way up employment ladders. If your high school diploma is you highest achievment, you might not do so hot unless you get lucky or have connections.

Not an instant success but it sure as hell makes things a lot easier. Plus, these folks you mention who are underemployed could've snubbed their nose at a certain job at some point, like "I don't want to start there." My brother did that and it screwed him royally. Another good chance never came up and now he's working for some Apple as a high-level tech support guy, even though his degree was in Film & Radio.

Some folks get a degree just to have one and have *no* idea what they're gonna do. So you got an Art Degree. What're you going to do? Open a Barnes & Noble? The computer/technical fields have lots of avenues you can take, and that is what I'm referring to. I'm referring to Prosthetic's case in particular. Not to everyone who has a degree.

Originally Posted by Eleo

Similarly I know people who get paid a lot yet haven't worked extremely hard for it. Kind of pisses me off, actually. Very discouraging and also confusing.

Thems the breaks =( One of my brothers is rather lazy and barely squeaked by in all of his classes. I *never* saw him study. And after about three months out of school, he got a job thanks to the help of a friend of my oldest brother's. He's now off making about 60k/yr for a job along the lines of Office-Space.

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