[PS3] Cooking Guide: Can't Decide What To Eat? PROTIP: THIS IS THE MGS4 THREAD

Spoiler:

Sorrow was Ocelot's father? Do what now? O__o I don't remember ANYTHING about that... You sure? Or is this new and only on MGS3:Subsistence?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Mobius --

There's no sound ;___;

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Guess my QT is old or something.

Haven't watched this since it first game out~ Fun times!

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Er. Bear in mind that the game won't be out for almost another year. There will be massive changes. I'm sure they'll tweak the smoothness of actions, as even I spotted that without looking too hard. Don't think that this is what your end-product will be like.

The initial trailer was a CG-type filming. This is how the game's environment will look (less "yellow"). This is our first glimpse at in-game movements. Things are still very early.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Holy shit. Eva??? I completely forgot about her possibly being in this... Heh. Very, very nice development =D

I'm also confused about using enemy weapons. I could've sworn a trailer mentioned ID-tagged weapons, meaning only the proper owner could use them. Did they scrap this idea? Or does Snake have some countermeasure on his outfit? Or can he only use the "guerilla" faction's "simpler" weapons upon disarming?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Tagonist

Am I the only one finding the ball-buster-knockout move a bit... I dunno... Strange? Seems this certain kind of slightly immature humour is seeping through more and more japanese media lately... (Or I'm just getting older... You never know...)

That's actually an incredibly effective (as you can imagine) way to incapacitate someone. There was an old Chinese martial art I believe that had a move named "Monkey Grabbing Peach", and it consisted of pretty much grabbing the jewels like a thief in a museum. Supposedly it had variations that involved removing them ;__;

But anyhow, it doesn't strike me as humorous in nature. Strikes me moreso as a very ruthless way to down opponents. (but it will be funny nontheless)

How ya doing, buddy?

The gameplay was nice, but I hope that they implement more awareness in to the enemies... But I'm sure they'll do just that. The foes seemed very dense, and I figured Kojima would've made use of a silenced gun to down one of the fellas. Instead, SNIPER RIFLE BOOOOOM. Another guard strolls on by~

Looks real slick though. I just hope that this one scene doesn't turn out to be a special, staged gameplay scene =p Meaning few other scenes are as active as it. Because that seemed pretty cleverly played-out.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Simo

Also is looks like Cam Clarke won't be reprising Liquid...

WHAT?! =( Whyyy... He was perfect, too ;_;

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

So, question for those who have beaten Act 2:

Spoiler:

What happens if you hit L1 once Snake has taken his shirt off in front of Naomi? I didn't know if she started crying because of accelerated aging, or if he was horribly scarred up somehow. I didn't spot the pop-up until the last second, and missed it. I get drawn in to the cutscenes and on occasion, I don't react in time for the L1 or X commands >_< Anyone able to throw me a bone on this?

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Regarding that...:

Anything disfiguring I should know about, though? :V

How ya doing, buddy?

One thing: if you are aiming to get the statues for nonlethal takedowns on the B&B Corps (don't forget the FROGS in Act 1 have a statue for doing this), turn on night vision. You'll find the statue ASAP if you have that on; otherwise, it tends to be hard to notice.

Tips for the B&B Corps (note: for NONLETHAL takedown, get the nonlethal Mosin Nagant sniper rifle. I made use of it for all the bosses past Laughing Octopus):

Laughing Octopus:

There's a bed that you can hide under, and she won't be able to roll at you. I never tried this, but folks say you can just lie in wait and pop her when she comes around. If you want to duke it out on foot, watch out if she ever balls up. If she does that, fucking RUN. She'll run you over and take half of your life with her. To avoid this, hop on top of a crate.

I didn't have a real strategy for her, so this boss fight was the hardest. She cost me, like, seven rations or so. I didn't know what the fuck

Raging Raven:

Go to the TOP floor, and seek shelter at the corner atop the stairs, just inside the doorway. She'll constantly lose track of you this way. If you hear a whistling sound (or was it beeping...?), that signifies a "big boom" coming up. Go halfway down the stairs beside you, whilst prone, and you're golden.

I absolutely loved vanishing on this bitch. I'd watch her to fly around on the horizon, then I'd pot-shot her with my Mosin-Nagant to spook her.

Crying Wolf:

This one has tons of little tricks. She hunts largely by scent, so if you're downwind, she'll key in on you pretty fast. If you equip that herb you find in South America (recovers psyche), supposedly she won't be able to pick up your scent.

Cheapo tricks:
1) Equip face camo and lie prone mid-map. I never tried this, but folks insist that she'll prowl around for you if she can't find you.
2) Snipe from either tower. This is supposedly kinda tricky.
3) This is what I did; seek shelter under the tank tracked vehicle right beside where you gain control of Snake. Even if she charges the vehicle, you take very little damage. Plus, you are HIDDEN perfectly from her and the FROGS. After a minute or two, she will patrol. You'll spot her on the horizon (facing north, not facing the wall near behind you). Pop off a shot once she is between trees and well visible. She'll peek out to see what it was. This is when you pot-shot her with the Mosin-Nagant. Following this, she'll know right where you are. She'll either stampede/charge around, or she'll sprint aside a brief bit and try firing her rail gun at you. This can net you a second shot if you keep your bead on her.

Mantis:

I ALWAYS forget her name... Anyhow! She's got two dolls -- one is of The Sorrow, the other is of Psycho Mantis. Knock them both out of her hands and use Psycho Mantis' doll on her. Then have fun with it.

However, she uses Meryl as a human shield often. Supposedly, you can get her in a CQC grip and use a syringe on her a la Vamp. I never got the chance to do this; Snake always threw her to the ground. If you can pull this off, she won't be able to be picked up by Mantis (I never had luck, but you can try~). Otherwise, she'll shield one of the Dolls with Meryl eventually.

And regarding Act 4 and 5's boss-activity. Spoilered in general to hide details~

Act 4:

1) Vamp. Shoot him with a gun, straight-up. Once he's down, un-equip your weapon or go to a CQC-compatible one (ie: handgun). Be sure to equip the syringe as your item. CQC grip him from behind, and the Triangle button is now to inject him. Pretty straight-forward. Supposedly, the Solar Gun does obscene damage on him ='D

2) Metal Gear RAY. I got this guy in one go but thought I was fucked initially. Make heavy use of your ability to dodge (X-button). I took him out using only missiles. Lure him to the open, pop him. Circle around buildings or what-have-you

Act 5:

Now you're down to a fisty-cuff fight against Ocelot. This fight is multi-tiered; there are four levels, each one paying homage to a MGS title =D The best thing I can tell you is make use of CQC. Blocking works nice, but later on, Ocelot does grabs/throws/specials to fuck you up. Make use of the X-button and charge in low whilst attacking. Do CQC if he ever starts to block a ton, but be careful. Also, keep an eye out if he ever grabs you; there's normally a counter or something you can do to get loose.

The fourth tier, I was in panic-mode due to low health. I just hit the attack button non-fuckin'-stop. It does some cinematic side-shot like you're doing a special move. I didn't bother to see if not hitting a button would let it progress the same; I just kept mashing.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

You need to do nonlethal for their first form to get their statue (statue only remains for the beauty forms. You need to collect it before you finish them). Statues exist for all the B&B corps members in addition to the FROGS battle in act 1.

How do you get the camera? And is there a purpose to taking photos?

How ya doing, buddy?

Awesome news <3

I was speaking idiomatically.

Huh? Wait a second =0

Spoiler:

I don't remember the MGS theme ever playing in the end. Hmm...

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Kilroy --
Unfortunately, the bandanna and stealth camo aren't allowed if you want Big Boss emblem. Hell, I think they're *disabled* on Big Boss mode =x

Shenlon --
The tallied emblems, from what I read, just signifies the one that you passed with the most flying colors. If you crawled for over 10hrs but barely looted enough corpses for the Hyena, you'll have the Inchworm (crawling for more than 2hrs) tallied. Or so I've read. Bottom line? If an emblem is on that sheet, you've got it.

FELIPE NO

Yeah, I was referring to the theme from MGS1, MGS2, and it's redone in MGS3. That song hardly appears in #4 since it was plagiarized off of a Russian piece from 1979.

Ahhh, there it is. I didn't notice it in my play-through =) Thanks for pointing it out, bud.

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Haven't downloaded it yet, but I will soon~ =D

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Spoiler:

Foxdie was only intended to kill Snake, Big Boss, and Liquid by the end point of the game. Meryl, Otacon, and what-not weren't set as "killable" according to the unmutated Foxdie.

Big Boss dies because Snake pretty much was spawning Foxdie in to the air, but it was harmless to everyone outside of Les Infantes Terribles sources and results.

As to why it killed Big Boss on the spot? It probably watches for an age to be passed before its "time bomb" goes off and kills the target/victim. Big Boss is WELL beyond that age, I'd think, since he has lived a long life. Snake was still shy of the point when Foxdie would trigger, I think.

Plus, Snake's mutations in his body following the rapid aging process more or less neutralized Foxdie in his system. Big Boss lacked this, resulting in him kicking the can.

Ocelot isn't phased by it because he is still Ocelot. Despite Liquid's arm, he is made up of Ocelot's DNA, making him impervious to Foxdie. Or so I figured.

How ya doing, buddy?

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Spoiler:

I never thought about Drebin's injection being what killed Big Boss. Big Boss *did* grumble about how the Patriots "got him" basically, as he was dying. Makes more sense now =3

I figured that was still Liquid's arm. Attached by nanomachines or what-not. Remember that the arm never looked perfectly "clean" (see #2). No doubt the cybernetic look was just on the outside. I'm pretty sure that it was still Liquid's arm. Looks cybernetic, but it ain't =0 If it was cybernetic, then one of the things regarding Liquid "being" Ocelot falls through. Someone would've gone "hay wtf dats not liquid". I figure that it looks cybernetic simply due to the processes that were involved in the attachment.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.