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[DS] Etrian Odyssey II: Heroes of Lagaard
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Old Jun 12, 2008, 12:29 AM Local time: Jun 11, 2008, 11:29 PM #1 of 191
I'm hoping for more storyline sequences. The first two floors in #1 made me go "OMFG IT'S LIKE WIZARDRY"

Then *NOTHING*. Storylines broke down to maybe once or twice in a strata. Period. Game felt too lifeless and I dropped it Still fun but, well, I need SOME sort of ongoing story.

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Old Jun 12, 2008, 08:53 AM Local time: Jun 12, 2008, 07:53 AM #2 of 191
Still, it felt horribly empty ;( I enjoyed seeing storyline sequences or random character-encounters at random points on floors.

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Old Jun 12, 2008, 11:19 AM Local time: Jun 12, 2008, 10:19 AM #3 of 191
Ugh. Ninja GIMMICK :V

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Old Jun 16, 2008, 12:20 PM Local time: Jun 16, 2008, 11:20 AM #4 of 191
I decided to try buying this on a whim, but it's nowhere to be found in-town. I looked online at my usual NDS Rom sites, but Etrian Odyssey 2 isn't up anywhere... Does someone have a site with it on-hand?

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Old Jun 16, 2008, 12:26 PM Local time: Jun 16, 2008, 11:26 AM #5 of 191
Huh. Guess my local joints sold out, because they said that they sold out their two copies (blol two wtf). Hoping for an online leak~ =0 Says the 13th on Gamefaqs, but a Friday sounds odd to me.

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Old Jun 17, 2008, 08:01 AM Local time: Jun 17, 2008, 07:01 AM #6 of 191
Game's online now =0 Hit up Mininova or just google '"Etrian Odyssey II" torrent'.

Edit: The one I got doesn't work =x Hope this isn't my R4DS hitting a wall... Boots up "can't read card" menu. Etrian Odyssey formatted window :V Hmm.

Edit Edit: Updated the ol' Kernel and it works =D Huzzah!

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Old Jun 17, 2008, 05:08 PM Local time: Jun 17, 2008, 04:08 PM #7 of 191
I'm doing this for my party:

RONIN
PROTECTOR
SURVIVALIST
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MEDIC
ALCHEMIST

Not too far at present, but I enjoyed the feel when I started a new game for EO1. This is no different I'd love to branch out and handle other classes, but I run in to impasses when I toy with the thought.

Need melee DPS -- Either Ronin or Landskrecht or whatever it is.
Need a tank -- Protector
Need a healer -- Medic
Need a nuker -- Alchemist

The Survivalist is the only character I'd remove without thinking about it too much, but their later abilities are pretty sweet. Any critiques or suggestions?

Also, I am REALLY unsure on how to build up my Ronin. I'm throwing his points in to the instant-death skill at present. It has bailed my ass out of the fire a number of times already, so I'm certain that it wasn't a waste.

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Old Jun 17, 2008, 09:35 PM Local time: Jun 17, 2008, 08:35 PM #8 of 191
Well, I should kick my Survivalist to the back row, actually. She doesn't have any reason to be up front. Then again, I might drop her altogether. But Apollon (or whatever it's called) was pretty sweet in #1~

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Old Jun 18, 2008, 09:18 AM Local time: Jun 18, 2008, 08:18 AM #9 of 191
Kagosin --
I'm using a money trick that is identical to EO1's.

Make a group of four survivalists and one medic, train them all in harvesting (give the medic some healing/cure training so they can keep the group alive), and run them to one of the two harvest points on the first floor. I get around 500-600 per trip at present. Later on, I'm going to tuck two or three of them in to my part, scoot them down to later floors, and have them mine or what-have-you. Or maybe I'll make more mules for that =V

Anyhow! It's simple, but it works quite well.

Remember to Talk to the trader shopkeep after your first quest so you can buy Warp Wires!

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Old Jun 18, 2008, 09:55 AM Local time: Jun 18, 2008, 08:55 AM #10 of 191
Kagosin --
I know =0 Just RUUUUN~ I've seen the bastard three times; pops a member for 90 damage before I can escape.

There are SHITLOADS of FOEs. Way more than I recall. Going to try what I did in #1; grind to a nice level and kill them so I don't have to worry about them for a good while. Ragelopes are one of the ones on the second floor... They're weak against thunder, right? Shit. I need to teach someone that...

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Old Jun 18, 2008, 01:18 PM Local time: Jun 18, 2008, 12:18 PM #11 of 191
blolwtf >=[ Hmm. I'd love nothing more than to wipe them out and patrol at my leisure. I took it down to 40% before wiping last time. I'll grind a level or two and try again. Need to get some damage-dealing skills on my Gunner and Ronin... The Protector is more or less worthless. She was the LAST FUCKING THING that it attacked. Is provoke worth it? I remember it sucking in #1. I've got level 1 of Back Guard and all the rest in to Shields. My characters are lev 5 (or was it 6?) at present.

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Old Jun 18, 2008, 04:07 PM Local time: Jun 18, 2008, 03:07 PM #12 of 191
Hm. With my protector, I've been trying to max out En Garde. Is that an unwise move?

Also, I tried gunner, but once I could handle the poisoning butterflies on Floor 2, I put in a lankshcnerakhart-- A WARRIOR >=V I forgot how many kinds of ass these guys kick. I also mined a good while on floor two using two mining mules with three of my regulars to keep them alive. Made some awesome gear. Power rings are <3

My Ronin is lev 9 and breaks 100 damage on almost anything. Rape~

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Old Jun 18, 2008, 04:53 PM Local time: Jun 18, 2008, 03:53 PM #13 of 191
Fuckin' hell. I grinded for about an hour and dumped my Force Skills on a couple FOEs. Wiped them out before they could strike (my Alchemist did ~980 damage ='D). I went to town, rested, saved, and duked it out with a few of them in regular combat.

First floor's FOE? Hits hard, but just approach him from the rear for a pre-emptive. Wiped him by round two.

Ragelope 2.0 REALLY pisses me off though. It one-shotted my Ronin with a critical then went on to confuse EVERYONE in the party. Despite that clusterfuck, I got it to 1/3 life before I wiped. I HATE Confusion Having that Gunner would've been handy, but I dunno what level covers Confusion.

Anyhow. One more level for my alchemist and she'll have her uber Flame spell. I'll pop FOEs with that and put them in their place.

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Old Jun 18, 2008, 07:08 PM Local time: Jun 18, 2008, 06:08 PM #14 of 191
20 => 29%? Jesus fuck. I'm scrapping this protector NOW >=[

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Old Jun 18, 2008, 07:22 PM Local time: Jun 18, 2008, 06:22 PM #15 of 191
roflpotamus, Atlus

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Old Jun 19, 2008, 09:41 AM Local time: Jun 19, 2008, 08:41 AM #16 of 191
Instead of getting all the Anti stuff to lev 10, wouldn't it be best to get Tec and Shields to 10 and learn Anti-all? The Tec to 10 seems like a wasted movement, but it's seems more convenient. Or is the chance of stopping the spells quite low?

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Old Jun 19, 2008, 09:04 PM Local time: Jun 19, 2008, 08:04 PM #17 of 191
Hm. Do double-strike and counter for the warrior (landschnekt or wutevah) have low proc rates at level 10, or are they worth maxing out?

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Old Jun 19, 2008, 09:56 PM Local time: Jun 19, 2008, 08:56 PM #18 of 191
Mo0 --
No way, man. The game is hard from the get-go; don't take it personally The game WILL kick you in the nuts repeatedly.

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Old Jun 19, 2008, 11:32 PM Local time: Jun 19, 2008, 10:32 PM #19 of 191
Once your party gets underway, it gets easier =0 I might've missed it earlier in the thread (blol lazy), but could you post your group? Just to see if you've got the right bases covered~

I recommend grinding off of mobs for a bit until you think you have all the materials you need for the first floor's craftable gear (made by selling drops to the store), then make a team of junk characters (make sure one is a healer), give them harvest/take/gather (whatever that skill is called) and constantly make trips to one of the two gather spots on the first floor. This is a tried-and-true money trick. However, there is an FOE that will spawn if you are unlucky at gather. I've only seen it four times and it's easy to escape from.

A ronin might be a good choice as one of your melee classes. After a bit of gathering on the second floor from mob drops (and some usage of the mining spot. Make some trash characters for that, too), you can make a kickass katana that'll help him tear shit apart~ =0

Also, after you finish the initial mapping of the first floor (first "quest"), talk to the shopkeep in town so you can buy warp wires. Those things are important =x

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Old Jun 19, 2008, 11:48 PM Local time: Jun 19, 2008, 10:48 PM #20 of 191
I'm on floor 3 and it's doing that shit from #1. "OH HERE'S AN IMPOSSIBLY HARD FOE =D TIME TO RUUUUN"

FOEs are fine and all, but it seems like there are a real FUCKLOAD of them in this

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Old Jun 20, 2008, 12:09 AM Local time: Jun 19, 2008, 11:09 PM #21 of 191
;_; I JUST WANNA DUNGEON CRAWL. NOT CRAWL AND TAKE IT UP THE ARSE~

wats r0ng w/ being a gech

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Old Jun 21, 2008, 11:09 AM Local time: Jun 21, 2008, 10:09 AM #22 of 191
Lace, what's the "proc rate" for the first levels of Double-Attack and Counter for landskunks? =0 I'm toying with the thought of getting *at least* to level one with those two skills.

Also, is it me or do axe skills blow compared to sword counterparts? =[

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Old Jun 21, 2008, 11:19 PM Local time: Jun 21, 2008, 10:19 PM #23 of 191
5%? Eeep...

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Yes, after a certain number of days.

Level 13 is good enough to do the Mission to rescue the guard on floor 3, if that's what you're wondering. Just don't try fighting the Ragelope that stands in the way unless you head into it with a lot of Force Skills ready to go.
Funny glitch; I screwed up on the lure bell (didn't know how to use it. Thought they'd *chase* me out, not go to the spot I used it at). I fought one of the ragealopes and warped out to rest. I came back to find that *all* the ones blocking off that knight were gone No idea, no questions asked~

Also, wtf on a Quest for level 4. Survive there for THREE DAYS? My longer grind sessions take close to 20hrs. I've never broken 24. Three days? How does your mana hold up? Ward all the time to keep monsters at bay?

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Old Jun 25, 2008, 01:44 PM Local time: Jun 25, 2008, 12:44 PM #24 of 191
Boy. How do some folks soar through this game? I do grinds and still go at my best speed, but I'm just now done with the first Strata =P Maybe I should play it more than just an hour or so a day.

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