[General Discussion] Games that are supposed to be really bad but you like

I'll name a few that you could just consider "underdogs"...

Wizardry VIII -- Fantastic PC title that passed under the radar. I suggested it to a few folks but they loathed it. Not only is this game ridiculously hard, but the battles are long and unforgiving, monsters respawn, and there are NO safe zones. But god help me, I love this damn game.

Wizardry, Tales of the Forsaken Land -- A PS2 game that was largely not received well by the populace. It's a first person dungeon crawler, but it's not a hack-and-slash! You run into random battles and your party of six will have to deal with anything from one ginormous monster to literally dozens of enemies in rows. You would get these really REALLY nice battle skills if your characters were used to eachother. Things like Charge or Assisted Shot or what-not. I own this as well but I stopped playing it for some freakish reason... Each floor in the game takes maybe a couple to three hours if you're blindly feeling your way around. Lord knows that the Graveyard level took me a fucking eternity... Ten floors total and you constantly revisit previously unavailable paths or are handed shortcuts to previous floors or even the entrance. I really should bolt down and finish this... It may share the title of the predecessor, but JP Wizardry games play and look entirely different. But they're still awesome.

King's Field Trilogy -- 1, 2, and The Ancient City. Recently played 2 on emulator and crumbled to purchase tAC off ebay for surprisingly cheap. Last I looked a mint condition was $30-40 but I found one and paid for shipping for right around $12! Can't way to play it again. I had fond memories of this mindless hack & slash.

Painkiller -- wtf guys. Sure, it's mindless destruction, but the interesting weapons and sheer mayhem along with a nice (albeit early) game physics in play make opening a can of whupass very appealing. Far better than Doom 3, guys.

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Just remembered another --

Sniper Elite.
Oh my fucking god. I started playing it and was all "lol what is this shit".

You are a sniper in the latter end of WWII. An American agent posing as a remnant SS soldier I believe. You go off on your own to do your mission. Bottom line is there are plans for an atomic bomb that the Germans have. The Ruskies are making a grab for it. This a fictional start to the Cold War. It's a nice length game.

Now the AI is just unforgiving. And the shooting physics are great. There is bullet-drop and as you play on higher difficulties, wind must be taken into account. Background noise can be used to muffle your shots (air raid or explosions), and you can bait enemies out by leaving wounded out in the open.

If you anchor down in one spot and go on a killing spree, the enemies will flank and kill you. You have a weapon of choice for close-combat (MP40, PPSh, etc) but you can't run-and-gun well. The main character's aim is a bit poor with those weapons.

The real fun I found later on lies in your equipment. The best freaking weapon ever in this is the tripwire. Jam down a grenade and tug out its pull string for as far as you need. Stake it down and bait enemies to make a patrol.

Once you master this game and learn all the tricks, oh my god is it cruel. Toward the end, I found out ways how to make enemies want to flank me, so I'd lay out tripwires. Or I'd bait them, and once I spot them patrolling, I'd position myself under cover and shoot the gas tank to a truck. Or snipe a stick of dynamite I had laid out.

This game is very hit or miss. The story is nice but the voice acting is fucking god-awful. I have some VERY fond memories of this game ;D Plus the bullet cam is badass. If you make a looooong shot and it lands a killing blow, it'll do a bullet-cam on a basis you specify (always, sometimes, never etc). It's sweet to make a shot to take out another sniper and see your bullet cause him to lose his left eye and gain some ventilation through the back of his head Very sweet game that most folks didn't care for. Which is unfortunate. But the background repeat, the music is nonexistent... It's just the sheer hell you can wreck once you get good that makes it fun.

There's nowhere I can't reach.