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School teaching kids to fight back gunmen
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Old Oct 13, 2006, 11:13 PM Local time: Oct 13, 2006, 09:13 PM #1 of 27
Originally Posted by Sword Familiar
It's fucking retarded. It's like saying that you should give up your life for your classmates. Rushing a gunman will most likely only trigger his trigger, so to speak. If you do nothing, then you might live to see another day. Then again, you might not. I would only rush a gunman if I knew that I could get away with it and w/o someone dying. Usually, rushing anyone that has some kind of weapon is a bad idea.

And if you just sit there doing nothing, you can still get shot.

Really there is no clear answer for this as each situation is unique. However in every school shooting case, the teachers and students basically just sat there like sitting ducks. Rushing the attacker with many students might be a good idea since many can over power one.

It could cause the attacker to fire, however it will more than likely be panic shots. Plus if you throw things at him, he'll have to react to it or he'll be injured, so he's target will become lost. It's a shame we have to do something like this, but I say it's better to put up a fighting chance rather than just sit and wait it out.

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Old Oct 13, 2006, 11:37 PM Local time: Oct 13, 2006, 09:37 PM #2 of 27
Originally Posted by Chibi Neko
At least they are not teaching the kids how to protect their sandwich yelling "back off! Get your own sandwich"

But seriously, I know that self defence is good and all, but when little kids are being taught to take down a gunman means there is a big gun control problem.

Or it could mean there are deeper underlying problems like a broken home, excessive teasing at school, lack of fitting in and other factors contribute to this problem. It's naive to think that gun control is the sole problem.

Of course you could say that without guns there wouldn't be any shootings. Sure, then you'd just have stabbings or beatings.

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Old Oct 14, 2006, 01:48 AM Local time: Oct 13, 2006, 11:48 PM #3 of 27
Originally Posted by DieSeLFueLeD
Most attackers have semi-auto or automatic weapons so they have more than enough bullets for everyone. They don't have to be good at aiming either, since they usually shoot people within 10-20 feet with them.

I think it's quite stupid to teach kids to be human shields for bullets. It will only excite the attacker and cause more damage.


Actually it seems that they usually arm themselves with either pistols or rifles, of course that doesn't mean there won't be casualities.

Wikipedia has an interesting article on school shootings in general which documents some key school disasters from America's and the rest of the world's history. This is not an easy solution to tackle and maybe if the kids are trained to attack the perpetrator at the right moment, it can lead to less casualities. Of course there is no true way to find out what will happen because of the unpredictable nature of school shootings.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Oct 14, 2006, 03:29 AM Local time: Oct 14, 2006, 01:29 AM #4 of 27
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That is the most awful thing I have ever heard ever, and I only read this one post in this thread.

I mean, what, you want people to train children to shoot their peers, or even worse, the kids they bully on? You don't know what you're saying.

What are you saying? I didn't say for children to be trained to shoot their peers or to bully the kids. What in the hell are you saying, I'm apparently missing something here.

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