[Manga] Civil War Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by joshi

there hasn't been any merchandise made with the new costume. tee-hee.

Heh, actually it's coming.



Source: http://photos.superherotimes.com/sho...y.php?cat=1241

Anyway, does anyone know if they plan on reprinting Civil War #2 or Amazing Spider-man #532? Cause I missed out on both, and tried to get the reprint of ASM#532 but were all sold out when I got there.

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A question, are the planning to release a Director's Cut version of CW 2 and the rest of the issues?

Cause I'd love to get my hands on that issue.

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Hey guys, I've got all the CW issues and tie-ins update now, but have yet to read any of them. Is there a specific order I should be reading them in? Eg. CW1 then Amazing SM 532. Or does it matter at all?

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Been surfing around and the best I found was this fan made one.

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Marvel Spotlight: Millar/McNiven
Civil War Opening Shot Sketchbook
New Avengers: Illuminati
Fantastic Four #536-537
Amazing Spider-Man #529-531
Civil War #1
Wolverine #42
She-Hulk #8
Civil War Front Line #1
New Avengers #21
New Avengers #22
Amazing Spider-Man #532
Civil War #2
Thunderbolts #103
Amazing Spider-Man #533
Civil War:Young Avengers Runaways
X-Factor #8-9
Civil War Front Line #2
Fantastic Four #538
Daily Bugle- Civil War Special
Wolverine #43
Wolverine #44
Civil War Front Line #3
Thunderbolts #104
Cable & Deadpool #30
Civil War #3
Civil War- X-Men #1
Amazing Spiderman #534

Another one here, but it seems incomplete: http://www.avengersdisassembled.com/...rtimeline.html

Is there an official one floating around? Or do most of you guys go by the checklist (which appears to be by months, and in alphabetical order)? I'll definitely be reading the "Road to Civil War" issues first, but probably won't start the main story till I get a more solid list of what the order is like.

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Originally Posted by Mucknuggle

The best thing to do is to check up on the release dates for the books and read them as they came out.

Yea, I think I'll do that. Just look up the shipping lists on Diamond and make a list from there.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Man that sucks. Glad I haven't really started reading into the series yet. Might as well wait until at least CW#4 releases. Rather confusing that they only delayed the Fantastic Four and Spider-Man tie-in issues and not the others too. Wasn't it their original plan to the finish the series before the end of the year? I wonder if we'll get any sort of compensation for the extended wait (though I doubt it, unless the new additions count as that).

Anyway, these new additions sound interesting, more Blank Panther, another CW: Frontline, and that one shot CW: War Crimes sounds pretty cool too. The "Casualties of War" titles sound like more must haves as well.

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Thanks for the info xman25! That really gives us a much clearer view on the situation. At least there'll be consistency in the art for the CW series, which is clearly what Marvel wants for the series.

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Sweet ass cover for CW4! The Turner variant looks cool too.




Source (contains an interview with Tom Brevoort): http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/C...WarRoom03.html

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Looks like 3rd prints of CW 1 and 2 are on the way! Along with 2nd prints of CW: Front Line 2 and 3, Thunderbolts 104, and Avengers 21. They're also releasing CW ASM Decisions, which is a comic that collects ASM issues 529-532.

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Civil War Titles Go Back to Press


In response to retailer demands, Marvel is keeping Civil War titles in stock, including 6 single Civil War titles as well as a collection of Civil War Amazing Spider-Man stories, all which explain the Wall Crawler's decision to unmask in a single oversized and specially-priced comic.

The first two issues of the core series Civil War will be receiving a second printing and a third printing respectively with Civil War Captain America Unleashed Variant #1 having a new Captain America cover using a now famous scene from the interior of Civil War #1 and Civil War #2 3rd Printing McNiven Sketch Variant featuring a sketch cover by Steve McNiven.

Issues #2 and #3 of Civil War: Front Line will also be receiving second printing variants with all new covers using interior art by artist Ramon Bachs.

Civil War tie-ins New Avengers #21 and Thunderbolts #104 will also be going back to press with all new covers by Howard Chaykin and Tom Grummett.

Civil War: Amazing Spider-Man – Decisions collects Amazing Spider-Man #529-532, Spider-Man's Road To Civil War all in one comic with an all-new sketch cover by Gabriele Dell'Otto. For fans who want to know why in the world would Peter Parker unmask…this is the issue for you.

Don't miss these key Civil War issues!

All the previous Civil War second printings have sold out at Diamond. All Retailers are advised to check their orders.

CIVIL WAR CAPTAIN AMERICA UNLEASHED VAR #1 (OF 7) (MAY068181)
Written by Mark Millar
Pencils & Cover by Steve McNiven
48 PGS./Rated T+ ...$3.99
FOC -8/24, On Sale - 9/13/2006

CIVIL WAR 3RD PTG MCNIVEN SKETCH VAR #2 (Of 7) (JUL068167)
Written by MARK MILLAR
Pencils & Cover by STEVE MCNIVEN
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99
FOC -8/24, On Sale - 9/13/2006

CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE 2ND PTG VAR #2 (Of 11) (JUL068169)
Written by PAUL JENKINS
Penciled by RAMON BACHS & STEVE LIEBER
New Cover by RAMON BACHS
32 PGS. NO ADS! /Rated T+ ...$2.99
FOC - 9/14, On Sale - 10/4/2006

CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE 2ND PTG VAR #3 (Of 11) (JUL068170)
Written by PAUL JENKINS
Penciled by RAMON BACHS & STEVE LIEBER
New Cover by RAMON BACHS
32 PGS. NO ADS!/Rated T+ ...$2.99
FOC - 9/14, On Sale - 10/4/2006

NEW AVENGERS 2ND PTG CHAYKIN VAR #21 (JUL068171)
Written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS
Pencils & New Cover by HOWARD CHAYKIN
32 PGS./Rated A ...$2.99
FOC - 9/14, On Sale - 10/4/2006

THUNDERBOLTS 2ND PTG GRUMMET VAR #104 (JUL068172)
Written by FABIAN NICIEZA
Pencils & New Cover by TOM GRUMMETT
32 PGS./Rated A ...$2.99
FOC - 9/14, On Sale - 10/4/2006

CIVIL WAR AMAZING SPIDER-MAN DECISIONS (JUL068168)
REPRINTS AMS 529-532 WITH ALL NEW SKETCH COVER BY DELL'OTTO
Written by J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Pencils & Cover by RON GARNEY AND TYLER KIRKHAM
All New Sketch Cover by GABRIELE DELL'OTTO
96 PGS./RATED A…$5.99
FOC - 8/31, On Sale - 9/21/2006

Source: http://www.marvel.com/news/-1.593

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Civil War #4 preview! I won't post the images just incase people wanna avoid spoilers, but man this issue looking to be sweet!

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LOOKING INSIDE CIVIL WAR #4
In lieu of our weekly New Joe Fridays chat with Marvel Editor in Chief (more on that in a moment), we're pulling a changeup this week, and previewing a little of Civil War #4 which is due in stores on September 20th.
Rather than full pages however, Marvel opted for previewing panels from the issue, given the events that the characters in the panels shown are reacting to, or events that are about to happen. (and no, smarty pantses - they're not showing panels because this is all of the book that's done. Issue #4 is complete and ready to roll for 9/20).

As for New Joe Fridays - well, check back on Monday for a special edition of our normal Q&A that we're going to call Joe Monday in honor of the occasion. Why on a Monday? Marvel is presenting a chunk of its upcoming editorial plans at the Diamond Retailer Summit in Baltimore on Monday evening, and Joe has promised to come by Newsarama and help spill the beans on the new creative team on Runaways after BKV and Alphona leave, the creative team on _____, and more.

So - in the meantime, check the panels, check over the weekend for news from the Baltimore Comicon, and be sure to stop back on Monday for a very special Joe Monday.

As for what's going on, issue #4 picks up just after #3's final page, that is, with Thor touching down…and not looking too happy.

Source: http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/C...lWar04Pre.html

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Originally Posted by Acro-nym

Ben hasn't really ever been brought back, though there is an alternate reality one apparently running around in Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man and he was briefly brought to the future to converse with Peter just before he died.

I thought they hadn't killed him off yet in FNSM. If I remember correctly

Spoiler:

Spider-Man from 2211 went to take Ben back to their timeline/dimention, Ben killed him saying that decided to stay a while. Then there was the other Ben that died too, the homeless bum in the alley. If I remembered correctly he was the one that gave Ben the gun and choice.

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Marvel made a Civil War trailer, it's pretty cool.

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Civil War is Back with a Trailer!

At long last, the divided heroes resume their bitter battle in Civil War #4, on sale tomorrow! Catch up on all the action with this exclusive Marvel.com trailer produced by Motherland.us!

This blockbusting battle is taking the Marvel Universe by storm, and for those of you living in Latveria and have somehow missed it, here's a quick refresher course to go along with the heart-pumping trailer.

In an attempt to boost ratings for their reality television show, four young heroes confront a group of villains hiding out in a home in Stamford, Connecticut. One of the villains, Nitro, escapes into the surrounding neighborhood. Refusing to be captured, Nitro unleashes his power and incinerates a nearby elementary school—killing hundreds of innocent children.

In the wake of this disaster, the public is outraged. A Superhuman Registration Act is passed by Congress, and now all those possessing paranormal abilities are required to register with the government.

Reaction among the heroes is split down the middle, with an AWOL Captain America on one side and a pro-registration Iron Man on the other. The line has been drawn.

As heroes all over the country are being arrested for refusing to register, Spider-Man makes a bold move and unmasks in front of the whole world on television demonstrating his allegiance with the Act.

In the mist of all this media chaos and guerilla warfare, Iron Man reaches out to Captain America and his resistance team wanting to compromise. Both teams meet at a disclosed location to talk. Sharp tongues turn to sharper blows, and a battle erupts. Suddenly there is pause as a bolt of lighting comes crashing down from the heavens. When the dust settles, a long lost Thor stands in front of them, wielding his hammer.

http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.638

Makes me wonder if they're gonna consider making the whole series into a digital comic and put it on a medium of sorts.

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Originally Posted by aznxinvazn

Speaking of reprints/variants, how much are the variants in your area (or are they all the same everywhere)? The Civil War #4 Turner variant goes for $20 at my local comic shop, while the black/white New Avengers #23 variant goes for $10.

My local comic shop sells the variant issues at cover price, at least that's how much he's been selling them to me anyway (heh, I always ask him to put aside one for me). But I know that there a few other shops in town that sell em between $15-$70, depending on their rarity. Eg. the $70 ones would be the sketch cover variants for CW, with the CW Turner variants at about $24-$30.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Sweet, thanks for the info! Definitely another cover to pick up.

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Thor's returned? Since when? Oh, he means the guy the Pro-side is trying to pass for Thor. That's hardy what he says.

It's spoiler proof, so that's a good thing, even though it's not true. Last thing they want is spoil a piece of the story on their site.

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Also because an order quota must be met to get certain variants. I think it was 75 copies for 1 sketch variant and 18 or 24 copies for the Turner variant.

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Ahh, I gotta watch out for these one shots. I had to look all over town to get "Choosing Sides", as it was sold it at all the places I frequented (and they usually have a big supply when it comes to CW issues). Hopefully this won't be the case for the rest of the one shots.

Oh, and I noticed that the Casualties of War is gonna have 2 different covers. I bet one features Iron Man, while the other is Captain America. I'll definitely be buying both.

EDIT:

Just saw the article, heh, looks like I was right about the covers.



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Oh wow, I actually didn't even know CW #6 was actually set for Dec. 20th. Oh well, can't wait to read the next issue, I really wanna see how this is gonna wrap.

Second the consistent art! McNiven's work is fantastic! It wouldn't have been the same if they got another artist to cover for the delays.

Hopefully this will be the end of the delays though. At least for the main title I hope.

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A look at Civil War #6's cover, the source's article is obivously old. Looks like they're going storm into the Negative Zone Prison (as if anyone didn't see that coming).




Source: http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=91713

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Originally Posted by Cheer Bear

Rumor is that CW causes the Fantastic Four to split up. The new FF is Torch, Thing, Storm and her hubby, Black Panther.

That doesn't sound like they're split up at all, only that Black Panther is included in the roster now.

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Originally Posted by Cheer Bear

So 1/2 the team changing doesn't mean they split up?

How do you mean? Cause that's definitely how you worded it in your post, perhaps a rephrase please?

Originally Posted by Cheer Bear

The new FF is Torch, Thing, Storm and her hubby, Black Panther.

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Aw man that cover looks sweet! Pretty much boils down to just Cap and Iron Man. The delay news sucks, but the additional pages news is great! Means it's gonna be done right, and won't get cut short.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Oh man, I agree with you guys completely, the ending was a complete let down. It was like they just cut it off, definitely felt like a piece was missing somewhere. Though, at the same time the ending of the war was inevitable and predictable. The issue had some good moments (eg. Hercules' scene and assist from an unlikely hero), but the abrupt end was meh.

Also, anyone else find that NcNiven's work for this issue was somewhat inconsistent? If anything the coloring definitely took a hit. Panels, not pages (though, there were some of that too), that were just inconsistent. Hell, the last few pages looked like crap compared to the previous issues.

Clearly a rushed issue. Oh well, looking forward to these post-war follow up tie-ins. As that's probably where a chunk of the closure is destined to be.

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