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Holy shit! The MGS4 trailer is already in the PS store (along with alot of other trailers)! I wasn't expecting it to pop up that quickly.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Haha me too, I'm just downloading everything right now. Damn, if I had known this stuff would be in the store this soon I would have checked earlier. Ahhh, hopefully the MGS4 trailer finishes downloading before I gotta go to work.

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Just saw the trailer, damn is Naomi on Liquid's/Ocelot's side? Vamp vs. Raiden, about time, and it looks like Raiden's blade is heated too. And man the english performances are turning out great too (though slightly disappointed with the absence of Naomi's accent as I'm partial to the perfomances in MGS and not TTS)! Anyone else kinda dissapointed that they've yet again discluded the MGS theme in the trailer?

Simultaneous, Early 2008 release! Hopefully by early 2008 they mean January.





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I agree with Simo, the trailer didn't feel as epic as the previous ones, though it did add a nice little twist (Naomi in league with Liquid Ocelot?).

Oh, anyone else catch the line by Naomi? "Nine years ago, at Shadow Moses..." The Plant chapter in MGS2 is 4 years after Shadow Moses, so that makes MGS4 about 5 years after MGS2.

How about the guy with the shades and mask? Anyone else think it's Raiden? Kinda sounds like him (plus he's got blond hair), and it does seem rather odd how he's unaffected by the nanomachine/FOXDIE (whatever Liquid Ocelot did) activation. BTW, did anyone catch when he exclamed "Jonathan"? Could this be Johnny Sasaki? Oh and Meryl and her unit's suits look very similar to Big Boss' sneaking suit from MGSPO.

The visuals looks great, except for some of the weird jaggy looking shadows. Though, did anyone else think that the framerate seemed kinda low, like the scenes were a little choppy at times, doesn't seem like it's running consistantly at 60fps (if I remember correctly that claim was made).

Story-wise, does anyone else think that they might do a sort of chapter/time-gap-thing like they did with MGS2 and MGS3. Eg. Begin the game with some events that happend 1-3 years (MGS2 Tanker Chapter, MGS3 Virtuous Mission) ending the act with something dramatic before the real meat of it all starts. Perhaps Snake obtains the Snake Eye (I think that's what it was called) during the 2nd part of the game? Or rather Raiden obtaining the exoskeleton in the 2nd act. Or maybe what we saw in the trailer was the beginnning part of the game.

And man that Raiden vs. Vamp scene really makes me wonder if you truely can't play as Raiden. I mean it looks like they're an even match, and with the way they closed it almost seems as if it leads into a boss battle.

The soundtrack was pretty good from what was in the clip, guessing it's something that HGW wrote. Just really disappointed that they still haven't played the new mix of the MGS theme.

Ahhh, I really hope a demo hits the PSN after TGS or sooner. Cause early 2008 is too long of a waiting time. No doubt the only reason why it's that late is cause it's simultaneous (*cough* the PAL release *cough*).

Originally Posted by Tagonist

What I'd like to know is, will this game finally, FINALLY have multiple audio tracks, so I don't have to listen to the english voicetrack?
While it might not be bad per se for a videogame it absolutely PALES in comparison to the japanese one...

I'm also curious as to whether this MGS will include a dual audio track as well. It should be possible considering the storage space available on Blu-ray disc, then again in one of the Kojima Productions Report podcasts they kinda hinted at it possibly not happening.

Though I personally thought the english performances were great and wouldn't be upset if the japanese track wasn't included. Thumbs up to the return of Debi Mae West, Patric Zimmerman and Jennifer Hale, but WTF is Cam Clarke? Just isn't the same without him voicing Liquid. It also looks like the lips/mouth-movements will be somewhat insync with the english performances. So it might kinda weird/awkward when you switch to the japanese track. Anyway, assuming it's not included, you could always just import the Japanese version of game if you want the japanese track that badly (remember region free on games).

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Simo

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..is supposed to be 95% cyborg with only his head and spine as the organic part when we see him as the ninja. No doubt explains why he can sustain the damage he does including impaling himself and Vamp on his sword.

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Ahhh! Now the scene makes a little more sense now. As Vamp something like "You're immortal too?" implying that they have previously met again. No doubt their first re-encounter must have caused Raiden to have sustained some serious injuries. Man, that would also explain why Raiden's blood was white too.

Originally Posted by Simo

I doubt it mainly because Raiden non-playable in MGS4 is like Kojima's middle finger to the naysayers and negative group of Raiden in MGS2. "You bitched about Raiden and only playing as Snake briefly in MGS2, well now you'll only play as Snake even if Raiden is super whacked out bad motherfucker that you wish you could play as".

Ahh, one can dream though. Now I'm very curious as to how the rest of that sequence is gonna play out, cause Old Snake doesn't exactly stand a chance against Vamp's speed. It would kinda suck if Vamp wasn't a boss (like Ocelot in MGS2), then again his grudge is against Raiden and not Snake.

Originally Posted by Simo

It's a shame Naomi doesn't have her hint of a British accent anymore but you could always argue that up to losing it during her 9 years absence underground...

Yea, I was really hoping that she would retain her accent from the MGS performances. But now it looks like they're going with the TTS perfomances (continuity wise), meaning Mei Ling is losing the accent too. Heh, this is gonna be confusing for those who never played TTS.

Originally Posted by Megalith Prime

How long does MGS4 take place after MGS.

Originally Posted by Naomi Hunter

Nine years ago, at Shadow Moses... I injected it into your body, Snake.

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Hmm, sounds like Kojima will be going with the SIXAXIS feature and isn't gonna wait out for the rumble. Cause remember reading he was gonna implement an alternate feature if a rumble controller wasn't released/announced in time (as he wanted rumble for the game instead).

Haha, all the new features sound nice. I like how staying in a trash can or steel drum for too long will cause you to smell. Many different viewpoints is a nice touch, I wonder the ol' top view one will be available as well. Heh, and love how you can use the magazines to remedy your motion sickness and how it has multiple pages this time.

Can't wait to see what MGO is gonna be like now too. Ohh, I hope a playable demo hits up the PSN soon.

Originally Posted by Simo

Konami also put up the Japanese version of the E3 trailer which pretty much confirms that soldier who is unaffected by Liquid isn't Raiden given it's a totally different VA.

Damn you're right, I wonder who he is then. Since the camera is somewhat fixated on him in the trailer...

And wow the lines in the japanese trailer sound somewhat different (well, duh I know they're in different languages, but content wise). Eg. The dialogue between Meryl and Snake's during the closing of the first half of the trailer, Snake's last line in japanese doesn't like he says same thing in english. Man, I hope Cam Clarke returns to portray Liquid, it just isn't the same without him. The japanese version of the trailer doesn't really give hope of his possible return either, since it doesn't sound like they tried to get someone to mimic Ocelot's deceased japanese VA.

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Ok, did anyone else catch the MPO+ trailer!?! Man, new characters: Raiden, Johnny, Genome soldiers, Gurlukovich soldiers, Arsenal Tengu's, SEALs, and even Old Snake. New maps, such as the hanger room for Rex from MGS and some from MGO. And a piano version of "Calling to the Night" played at the beginning, pretty nice. Heh, plus a nice little closer at the end.

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/event2007/index.html

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Man, I hope a demo pops up real soon on the PSN as I'm sure I'll be aching to try it out once vids of HK demoing the game hits the net.

Oh and for those that are interested, the Japanese version of the E3 trailer just hit the Japanese PSN. Go make yourself an account if you haven't already, as it may prove useful in the future (eg. demos that may be released there before the NA PSN).

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Originally Posted by Simo

Aside from the live demonstration of MGS4 and officially unveiling Vamp, Kojima also revealed another character returning: Eva:
http://tinypic.ca/files/yvqmdld2ntmkgk4tmlmm.jpg
http://tinypic.ca/files/uyfzjzamjknzexnwnz00.jpg

Holy crap! I did not expect a return from EVA at all. Haha, her bust seems smaller. Hmm, I wonder if she has the hots for Old Snake, haha.

Originally Posted by Simo

Theres also a new Metal Gear game for cellphones where Sony will also release a special MGS edition phone with the game pre-installed. Alot of announcements about MG products including figures, food, drink, clothing...everything! I'm kind of wondering what these are as they seem like the Medicom 12" figures but I don't recall MGS2 Snake and Raiden ever being released so hopefully this is a new line:

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Hmm, they look more like resin statues to me. From the little sign in the pic it says "Ultra Detail Figure"... be cool if they are as poseable as the medicom ones (though doubtful).

Ahh, anyone know if there's a guide yet to the beta sign up?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Just checked out the gameplay footage. Looks incredibly fun, I like how there's also a cross hair for when you're in over-the-shoulder view. Though I'm kinda bummed that Kojima didn't demo how weapon customization would work in the game.

BTW, in the new menu system (which was manufactured by Hal Emmerich, heh), Childbrowser, there's actually a Weather, Temp, as well as Wind speed/direction reading there. I wonder what that's gonna be for.



Man, I hope a demo pops up real soon on the PSN, as I don't think I can't wait till early 08 to get my hands all over this.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Holy crap! The demonstration footage is on the Japanese PSN! Downloading now (638 mbs)!

Now, we just need a damned downloadable demo!

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Heh, on the merchandise side, looks like they're also making MGS1 Snake and Ninja Kubricks as well as MGS4 Old Snake and Raiden, plus a new MGS3 Big Boss. They look pretty cool, might try to get them, seeing as how I missed out on the MGS2 Kubrick.

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BTW, anyone else read up on the new MGO? One of the Konami reps described it as a "hide-and-seek" game. The new SOP system sounds interesting, you can find/see location of your team mates on the map (even if a wall/box is in the way, you'll get an x-ray sort of view of em). Apparently the SOP system can be used a weapon as well. When you kill an opposing player you can tap their info link and find out the location of the player's team mates. Another new neat feat. is that you can attack while you're on the ladder now too. They also added the ability to choke, not sure if I like that (sees the potential of it being abused). Oh and the game now supports 16 players total, making it an 8-8 team match.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/807/807583p1.html

I wonder if MGO will be released before MGS4... The closed beta testing kinda hints at the possibility. Ahh, whatever as long as I can get a taste of the gameplay, be it from MGO or MGS4.

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Hmm, I'm guessing we tap the R2 button is use the grenade launcher and stun on the knife, and hold R2 to load the weapon menu?

Does anyone else find this location eerily familiar to the Grozynj Grad base during the Sidecar runaway part from MGS3?



Oh and the MGS4 demo footage is now available on both the NA and Euro PSNs.

EDIT:
http://mp.i-revo.jp/user.php/kp-ryan/entry/107.html

New KPR podcast is interesting. The local Vamp & Raiden were fighting in was confirmed to be South America. And Payton didn't even deny that the guy with the mask & shades that wasn't affect by the nanos activation is Raiden as Randy Nelson babbled on about it.

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Originally Posted by Simo

Konami never contacted him. Several people including a few members at MGSTUS contacted him asking about his involvement in MGS4 to which he replied he had none and wanted to reprise his role. Heck, he wasn't even aware the English VO had begun until word of the E3 trailer got to him.

Aw man, that just sucks! Just isn't an MGS game without Clarke!!! Now we got inconsistency too, since it was always Liquid's voice whenever he took over Ocelot in MGS2. I wonder how they're planning to explain this? Since the Japanese VA is still consistent.

Originally Posted by Simo

Some good news about those figures shown at the party. Seems like they're a new 7" line by Medicom with multiple points of articulation and will be distributed stateside via Diamond/Previews and retail for around $20. They were on show at the SDCC so here are some snaps:
http://sdcc.figures.com/data/776/SDCC001.JPG

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Meh, they don't look that great. My definition of "multiple" is 20 points of articulation or more, these's clearly don't have that. I think I'll just save my money for the MGS4 RAHs instead.

EDIT:
New podcast, another session with Randolph. Doesn't really reveal any new, but there's a bleep at 18:27, wonder what that was about? Next session is Quinton Flynn, which should be very interesting, heh, apparently he quite the goofball. I wonder if they'll spill the beans about whether he is the guy in the shades and mask (cause personally, from the english E3 trailer, it sounds like he was voiced by Flynn).

http://mp.i-revo.jp/user.php/kp-ryan/entry/123.html

I was speaking idiomatically.

Bleh, the article's title is confusing too. "Kojima to show..." kinda implies that it'll be another gameplay demo and not an actual playable demo. I really hope it is indeed an actual on stands playable demo and will be appearing on the PSN the week of or shortly after. Heh, looks like I'll be keeping an eye on the Euro PSN for the week of GC.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

New KP Report interview with Quinton Flynn. Heh, we get a sample of the english version of Raiden's line from the 2006 E3 trailer. Oh and Payton mentioned an interview he had with Kojima which is being done for a documentary. I wonder if this is for Metal Gear Saga vol.2 or for the MGS4 documentary the Japanese voted for a while back (mentioned in a previous podcast).

Plus they gave somewhat of a reason as to why Cam Clarke isn't back (more or less, decision was made by Kojima). Basically cause it was Ocelot's body, and that the original plan for the Japanese VA was to have the VA for Ocelot return (who we all know passed away, RIP). Oh and they released what Kris Zimmerman's relation to Pat Zimmerman's is. And interstingly they're still doing auditions for other characters in the game.

http://mp.i-revo.jp/user.php/kp-ryan/entry/128.html

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Originally Posted by Simo

Saga Vol. 2 is already out, Hantei. It came with the recently released 20th anniversary boxset in Japan that covers all the Snakes in the series voiced by an unknown characters. I've been waiting for the is podcast so cheers for the link!

Ohhh, I wonder how they're going to distribute it for NA now. My guess is a pre-order bonus for MGS4. Hmm, then that means that the interview Payton did is for the Documentary of MGS4 (haha, assuming that they are going through with it).

Originally Posted by Simo

In regards to Clarke not coming back, it's a shame but I'm glad since that was really one of the ridiculous moments in MGS2 that wasn't necessary and really it should be only Ocelot's voice regardless if Liquid is in control or not.

Just gonna feel weird not hearing his voice. I mean Zimmerman saying "Brother" or something Liquidy is gonna sound so awkward.

Originally Posted by Simo

I mean for the Japanese release of The Twin Snakes Kojima forbid Silicon Knights to recast another Japanese actor for Gray Fox, since the original actor Kaneto Shiozawa passed away, and so the English VO was used instead with Japanese subtitles.

Ahh, no wonder TTS only had english voice overs for both versions.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Simo

Well if they agree with distributing the 20th anniversary set stateside then Vol. 2 will most likely come with that. I'd imagine though it could always be a preorder bonus like you said should the set not come over but I wonder if the documentary is actually for the game, like extra bonus content similiar to the Euro MGS2 version which had a making of DVD....

Hmm, I see what you mean. Perhaps under an unlockables/specials/bonus section in the game. That'd be nice.

Originally Posted by Simo

Yeah but that in itself with Ocelot with a British accent was just as awkward and I wished they had just gone with the dropped cyborg arm angle. I mean it'd kind of shit to setup Ocelot with 40 years of history between MGS1-3 but then turn it crap just have him turn into Liquid and Zimmerman does an excellent job with the role including his small line in the trailer.

Oh, I agree Zimmerman is awesome and am loving what he's done so far for MGS4, haha even though it was only one line from the E3 trailer. Heh, don't get me wrong, if he didn't make a return I would equally complain about it as well. Just still bummed that we won't be hearing Clarke's Liquid in 4. It would have been better if they didn't even bother with the voice changes in MGS2 for Ocelot, that way we wouldn't have built up this expectation.


And looky at what popped up on YouTube, Metal Gear Saga vol. 2 (though it doesn't refer to itself as such). Assuming that this does see an NA release, I wonder who they're getting to narrate it (in fact, I wonder who is the narrator for it, character wise). Ohhh and is that the instrumental version of "Calling to the Night" I'm hearing during the run down of the MG timeline and credits? I hope it sees a release in the near feature (why wasn't it included in the MG 20th Ann music collection!?!?)! Or at least a rip .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSLaPbYjZCI

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Do you know if the new trailer will be hitting the PSN store this week? I'm assuming the Euro one if it does...

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Just checked the Euro and they got some trailers from GC. They even have the MGS4 game demo from the 20th anniversary party, same one on the NA and Japanese PSN, but this time dubbed in english. I believe it's Ken Imaizumi who's narrating it. Here's hoping the GC trailer pops up on the PSN tomorrow.

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The KP Event's Page is updated and the GC content is accessible now, along with a stream of the GC trailer. The four bosses from the Famitsu issue are named the "Beauty and the Beast Unit." Basically there's a beauty under each of those beastly exoskeletons. Looks like the beauties are based off of real women/actresses/models(?). From the order on the page I'm assuming Lyndall Jarvis is Laughing Octopus, Scarlett Chorvat is Raging Raven, Mieko Rye is Crying Wolf, and Yumi Kikuchi is Screaming Mantis.

Just watched the trailer and that unit looks pretty crazy. The soundtrack is sounding pretty good too, but still no MGS theme. I wonder why... could HGW still be working on it?

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/event2007/index-en.html

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I just noticed that the two puppets Screaming Mantis has dangling beside her are Psycho Mantis and The Sorrow.

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Incase no one knew already, the GC trailer is up the NA PSN. Oddly, the Euro PSN didn't have the GC trailer, just the gameplay demonstration I mentioned earlier.

After the viewing of the HD version I noticed that when Raging Raven dove down she sliced the group of PMCs in half, heh pretty gruesome. Also, noticed that Laughing Octopus has the same octocamo technology that Snake has, quite fitting seeing as how she's an "octopus".







I was speaking idiomatically.

The latest KPR session is with Kris Zimmerman again. This time they were talking about their final recording session for the game. They made an interesting comment about how they had to be selective for the lines in the E3 trailer as Snake's voice does indeed change tone (like he sounds older in one part than the other), that he gets older in the game, somewhat hinting that the game could be happening over an amount of years. Another interesting comment is that Zimmerman said there were some scenes that made her cry, some really emotional scenes to come?

Something else that might interest fans to know is that they changed around some words from the Japanese script. Eg. what's said in the English version may not be a literal translation of what was said in the Japanese version. But the same message is there. An example was a line Snake says in the game as he hands a gun to someone and says "good luck" (direct translation of the Japanese), which is being re-worded/written to "here take this" (something Snake is more likely to say).

They also revealed that Fred Tatasciore is the one who performs the male voice in the beasts.

Oh and Debi Mae West will be recording a KPR session, hopefully it'll be next weeks.

i-revo The KP Report Session 055 マイポータル

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Simo

New podcast which includes some big news about the TGS:
i-revo The KP Report Session 057 マイポータル

• MGS4 playable demo for the public confirmed for TGS.
• New trailer at TGS that will also reveal the identity of the VO from the GC trailer and it's not Sigint. Ryan also warns that you might want to skip the TGS trailer since he thinks it shows too much and would of preferred some of the content in the trailer to be kept a secret until the game is released.

Yes!!! Please please please have the demo on the PSN the week of!

The VA in the GC trailer not being Sigint isn't a surprise, the guy sounded too young. Maybe he's one of the guys from the New Foxhound Unit.

Meh, the TGS trailer revealing too much doesn't really bug me since it wouldn't be the first time they've done it. If anything it'll probably be to the same degree as the MGS3 trailers. Though it does kinda bug me that Ryan says that he felt the trailer revealed too much, cause now we know there won't be too many secrets left (kinda killing the suspense/expectation for us to expect more).

Originally Posted by Simo

The interesting thing is that the line consists of an extra figure not previously revealed that looks the same as Old Snake only with the mask on and lists it as "Otacon"....

Heh, maybe it's a typo, perhaps it's supposed to say Otacamo? Though if that is indeed Otacon then there goes one secret/surprise revealed.

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Holy crap! Ahh, overload of new info! I guess I'll be keeping everything in spoiler quotes.

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Ok first off, is that supposed to be Johnny Sasaki (why is it that they have Akiba in brackets)? If so, it sure didn't sound like him in the GC trailer. Rex and Ray's return, with Snake and Liquid operating them repectively, totally unexpected (well, not Ray's return). First glimpse of Olga's child (Sunny), looks just like her. I'm assuming Drebin is the one who was talking to Snake in the GC trailer.

Payton was right, this was a little too spoilerific.

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Snake operating Rex and Liquid operating Ray in a fight, that definitely should have been kept as a secret

Originally Posted by Simo

Hantei should be happy as the scans focus on the weapon customisation and from the sounds of it we should see it in the trailer.

Nice, great to finally hear/see it. As they've never gave the feature, gameplay wise, much attention since Kojima's comment about it.

I'll be waiting to see the trailer in HD as well, hopefully it'll hits the PSN tomorrow.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Slayer X

Don't worry, I've looked in most the spoiler tags and the majority has been cryptic or bizzare... except for Hantei's they're real... I think. I mean I didn't read his because they looked legit so yeah. Nevermind...

Heh, yea they're all referring to what's shown in the famitsu scans.

Anyway, just saw the trailer! Even though it's no HD quality. Very very disappointing that the MGS theme still hasn't made its debut, the music in the trailer itself wasn't that great. I really hope it wasn't scrapped, if it was then damn those Russian journalists. And damn, Naomi really is generous, showing lotta clevage. Anyone else thinks she kinda looks like Monica Bellucci now? The dub itself sounds pretty good, definitely looks like the the lips are in sync with the english VO now.

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Haha, finally we get to see the old Johnny back to his old self. Anyone else catch the glimpse of Raiden in the helicopter? Looks like he was seriously injured, I'm assuming it's the aftermath of his encounter with Vamp. Drebin seems like the Sigint of MGS4, I wonder if they're related somehow. Oh I also wonder who Snake is holding onto during his encounter with EVA.

Zimmerman's performance was great, but I gotta say "Brother" coming from him just doesn't have the same impact as it did coming from Clarke. Oh and interestingly the Haven soldiers are female.

Ahh, I hope the demo pops up soon on the PSN. Like next week. Heh and great to hear that they wasted no time in trying to implement the rumble now.

Oh, also saw the MGO trailer. The shields from MPO are in it, the old City Under Siege map is back, looks like one of the maps is indeed Grozjny Grad, and it appears as if the game encourages much more teamwork than before. Such as indicators of when a teamate is in nead of help.

Also checked out MGS2 BD trailer. Might have to import that to check out the Japanese VA, though I wonder how they're going to compensate for the deceased VAs for Fox and Ocelot. Heh, I also wonder if for the english VA will they dub all of Ocelots by Zimmerman for the MGS2, including the parts for when Liquid takes over.

Originally Posted by K_ Takahashi

I for one didnt find it as spoilerific as mentioned, mass amount of character intros yes, but I find the E3 trailers (of both 06 and 07) more plot setups.

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You can't deny that the one scene with Snake in Rex and Liquid in Ray not being overkill. That bit I agree with Payton when he said it revealed a little much, that definitely should be left as a secret.

EDIT: The game's homepage is pretty nice, check out the character page, they have cast credits for the character's english and japanese VAs. EVA is voiced by Lee Meriwether. Oh and Yumi Kikuchi does the japanese VO for Raging Raven, the english cast for beauty and the beast unit are done by VAs and not the models themselves. They also give a little info on the character's sort of role in the game. Eg. Raiden is "A scout whose armoured exoskeleton conceals the spirit of a true warrior."

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Heh, interestingly Johnny is the techie in Meryl's unit, didn't figure him as being one. Another intersting bit of info is that EVA is "A beacon of resistance against the Patriots, whose followers call her "Big Mama".

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BTW, did anyone notice the snowy local Snake and Liquid were fighting at? Could that possibly be Shadow Moses?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by PiccoloNamek

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Looking at the nature of the damage on REX (look at the radome), it would seem likely. Maybe Snake went there and salvaged it somehow?

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Oh shit you're right, even the rail gun missing plus the cockpit is open. That has to be Shadow Moses. Man, they really did show too much now, that has to be last location you visit. Shadows Moses is where it all started and now it looks like it'll be where it all ends.

Originally Posted by Simo

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