Fascism in America?

I recently watched these films and have begun to really wonder what direction our country has been going to. My sister's husband brought home the dvd and it really got me wanting to go out and start my own research to find out if the documentary has any truth to it. The first one is...

The Obama Deception

YouTube - The Obama Deception Part 1/12

And the second documentary is...

America: Freedom to Fascism

YouTube - America Freedom To Fascism (01of11)

They are pretty lengthy so I'll sum it up (though I highly recommend EVERYONE watch them) The first documentary is about who is really controlling our government and money. When I first saw the opening I thought... Oh great some right wing propaganda crap... but it's really not about that. It focuses on a group called Bilderberg who, for some amazing reason, is able to get together 120 of the most wealthy/powerful people (including politicians) without having any big media coverage. It talks about how the president- whether it's Bush or Obama - left or right - is really just a puppet. It goes deeper into religious overtones... which I think may be exaggerating, but the point made is very interesting.

The second film is about the Fraud that is the IRS. How there is no law that says we have to pay income tax and how the federal reserve is a private entity and why it should be shut down. It then wraps down to who is controlling the government, which they think is the Bankers. It also points out how we are losing our freedoms without noticing it.

So, my question is; what do you think?

For me, I think I would have been one of those people to think "you're crazy" when I quickly glanced over it. But if you actually take the time to watch it or give it a chance it at least raises some questions inside your head. Like, how does the media not cover Bilderberg? I've never trusted big media outlets in the first place, so I guess its no big surprise, but its really a let down. The issue of the IRS is worse! How does this continue to happen? I also don't trust 98% of politicians, but is the government really becoming fascist?

Anyway, what are your opinions if you have seen these movies?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Pangalin

Let me ask you (although I suspect I know the answer):

Did you bother to independently research any of the claims these oh-so-enlightening films made?

Um, if you read my post I said that watching the documentaries prompted me to do my own research to find any truth to them.

The reason I posted this thread in this forum was that I wanted personal opinions. You know to stimulate discussion... in a forum. LOL pretty novel idea. I guess the best you can get in Gamingforce nowadays is sarcastic one liners from the popular crowd. That's definitely not spam.


So you think the documentary is full of shit? Then say so. Did you even watch it before you gave your opinion? Or did you pull from whatever I wrote?

BTW for all of you thinking these videos are exclusively anti-Obama, they aren't. I actually voted for Obama. They dont talk about him being a muslim or where he was born. I guess you can only know that, though, if you actually watch the video.


The most interesting things I've taken from these videos (if anyone is still interested) is group called Bilderberg. Has anyone else heard of them?


Bradylama: To my surprise KRS-1 is actually a big supporter of these activities.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I dont know much about Alex Jones, so I guess I don't see things from that point of view. All I know is that he hosts a radio show. I've never listened to it. I watched the documentaries with a clean slate, I guess you can say. The second documentary is directed by Aaron Russo, though, he did owe quite a bit of money in back taxes from what I know. One of America Freedom to Fascism's strongest point was the former IRS agent trialed and found not guilty for not filing for his taxes.

I'm not asking anyone to review my ideas. I don't recall claiming them my own. I am just as much skeptical of them as you are. That's why I posted them to talk about them.

If I wanted a pat on the back I would have posted this on Infowars or some other forum that already are ardent supporters of these ideas.

So about that question... Has anyone heard of Bilderberg and what they do? I am very interested to know if anyone has heard of them outside of this documentary. You can't find much about them in the media but I found this article talking about their elusive nature in the media Why isn't the press corps more interested in covering the Bilderberg conference? - By Jack Shafer - Slate Magazine and this one Bilderbergers excite conspiracists - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO.com talking about how the group attracts conspiracy theories, ties with the Obama cabinet, and how Obama might have been at the last meeting when he all of a sudden disappeared on the campaign trail.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.