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Old Jun 20, 2006, 06:18 PM Local time: Jun 20, 2006, 04:18 PM #1 of 138
All this Aero BS doesn't impress me, or even any new user features. What I'm interested in is the improvements to the core OS in terms of stability, security and speed. If, for example EAC finds a part on a CD that it can't read locks up (like it does on WinXP for me) and fucks up Windows Vista, I'll still be cautious about trying it. The only reason I'm even using Windows XP (as opposed to Win2k), is because Microsoft essentially abandoned the OS, only fixing bugs and security holes now. But since I'm expecting the Vista adaption rate to be slower than WinXP (thanks to there not being Win9x to jump up from), we should be set with XP until 2010.

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Old Jul 23, 2006, 11:47 PM Local time: Jul 23, 2006, 09:47 PM #2 of 138
Really most people who are going to use Vista are those who get it pre-installed. I don't see many people ponying up the money to upgrade their PC to buy that OS. Since Windows XP has MUCH wider adoption with mainstream users than Win2k does, I don't see Microsoft ditching XP as near as early (even though XP and 2k are extremely similar).
Though that won't stop me from trying the final release at least once just for the hell of it .

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Old Jul 23, 2006, 11:52 PM Local time: Jul 23, 2006, 09:52 PM #3 of 138
Originally Posted by PUG1911
I like the way it frosts the title bars on inactive windows. It's impractical, and a waste of resources, but very pretty. It didn't seem *too* slow on a P4 3.0G with 1GB RAM and a 6200 video card. But it certainly was missing some speed when compared to Windows XP or Suse 10.X.

I love that they are really giving the 'administrator permision required' model a go. Unfortunately it's not handled smoothly. Apple does this very well, and it'd just be a matter of changing the way configuration menus etc. are handled for Vista to get close to it.

The reason I installed Vista was to create documentation for connecting to our wireless network (configure adaptor to use DHCP). Using their non-classic control panel it is much, much more complicated than doing the same task on Win2000/XP. A serious step backwards.

It was kinda funny that in doing this I found a bug which prevents the system from taking screenshots correctly in 32bit colour.

I see no reason to adopt it in the near, or any currently projected future. My organization will not be makeing the move until there is a compelling line of business reason that it has to be done. I don't love XP, but it does the same things at least as well as Vista. Why rock the boat when you don't need to? This release may be skipped entirely for me (aside from putzing around with it of course).
They could make UAC much easier by adopting a Linux style handling of admin accounts. OR even better, unkown apps run in their isolated world, where everything they do is tracked and logged by Windows and is fully undoable if you don't like the results (if a virus formats your HDD, undo it; Windows installes a better version of WGA, undo it:lolsign.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 10:18 PM Local time: Mar 19, 2007, 08:18 PM #4 of 138
Other than software compatibility problems (granted Windows XP had that problem during the Win9x -> WinNT transition), the only major gripe I have with Vista is UAC. The experience with Vista is thusfar good enough that I only plan to use Windows XP when a program refuses to run.

Back to UAC though, I really think it's too overbearing. While I don't plan to turn it off, I do wish there was a degree of warnings/confirmations less the the current state. If you've ever tried to delete a file from the Program Files folder, you know exactly what I mean (three warnings to delete some shitty temp file? Why?).

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Old Mar 24, 2007, 08:56 PM Local time: Mar 24, 2007, 06:56 PM #5 of 138
User Account Control. Name basically says it.

Anyway go to Control Panel, then User Accounts, and click on Turn User Account Control on or off. It'll probably say nooo y u do this? or something but it's pretty simple and then Vista is cool beans with just about everything.
You know, if UAC had a the ability to remember which programs you allow permissions for (and had a firewall/anti-virus like MD5 checking system), then the option to turn this shit off wouldn't seem so attractive.

You think they could've though that out when the tested the feature themselves.

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