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Civil War in Iraq?
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Kaiten
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Old Mar 2, 2006, 07:49 PM Local time: Mar 2, 2006, 05:49 PM #1 of 34
I do believe it is very likely that Iraq could collapse into Civil War (the first chance they have at freedom, there is going to be splitting or a coup) and the US can't do much to prevent or stop it. It's up to the Iraqis whether or not their country remains stable.
If it does degenerate into Civil War, we could see a situation very similar to the evacuation of Saigon at the end of the Vietnam War.

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Old Mar 2, 2006, 07:55 PM Local time: Mar 2, 2006, 05:55 PM #2 of 34
Originally Posted by Mr. Danielsard
I dont think the us invasion to iraq was ever actually needed... if it was for freedom as they say, then they should have had to invade Cuba, Iran and North Korea, as well as a few african and asian nations... bush's greed is being seen in full action in this senseless war
Actually the freedom argument only became the primary cause once word got around there was no WMD (or concrete links to Al-Queda).

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Old Mar 3, 2006, 12:05 AM Local time: Mar 2, 2006, 10:05 PM #3 of 34
Originally Posted by Lord Styphon
I understand that countries like Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia, Mali and Senegal, among others, all have huge Muslim majorities and functioning democratic systems of government.



Democracy is based on the principle of governments being selected through the votes of an enfranchised segment of the population; freedom isn't a requirement.
I agree strongly with that. After you elect someone to power, who can take them down? Only others who are in power here. We haven't had a major coup in the US since the Civil War. It would be best if Iraq had chance to try things on their own, they do want to influence their future. Bombing Mosques and killing Shiites children is not the best way to do this though. What Islam could really use is a reformation of their faith like Christianity had in the 1500's. What was it like before than? Highly fundamental with mass killings in the name of the church common, much like where Islam lies today (coincidentally if the Christian reformation was 1500 years after it's formation, than the Islamic reformation shouldn't be far off...).

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Old Mar 4, 2006, 08:55 PM Local time: Mar 4, 2006, 06:55 PM #4 of 34
How many Iraqis have died since the US invaded Iraq? I know it's less than what Saddam killed over the same time period (albeit people killed by Saddam died a much worse death). I remember Bush ballparking it aound 30,000.

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