[Movie] LOST

I missed those references to "hell" and "Cerberus" you speak of. Where are they?

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Originally Posted by MagicalVacation

Well, I'm still afraid of the direction this season is going. There simply must not be a fourth season, so they have to wrap everything up now, and they're being very slow about it. Every episode, I ask myself what new information I have learned, and it's almost always close to none.
Hurry it up already.

I've heard tell of there being a contract for 5 seasons, with the final ending being the season 5 finale.

I've also heard a theory that John will join the Others in search of answers. I think it's believable. He needs something to satisfy his lust for knowledge, and to finally put an end to his questions.

I have a feeling these six episodes will be focusing on the six characters away from the island, and they're happenings with the others. Come february will be when we go back to the Beach, and hear about all the other characters.

One last thing

enraging:

am i the only one who was pissed off at how the others managed to get onto the boat? Sayid is like a freaking special ops agent, with all the military knowhow. How the heck did six of the others get passed him and Jin.

Also w00t to

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Sun killing (i hope) that one woman from the Others. I could tell if they followed her at all i wasn't going to like her.

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Originally Posted by MagicalVacation

I know he still has a hidden agenda, but he doesn't seem to play it out as much as he used to anymore. It's a shame. I hope they don't do anything to Locke's character either.

They already have. What makes you think that recent events won't shake him up worse than ever. He's been "wrong" twice about the button now. I use quotes because technically he wasn't wrong the first time, but he was darn sure of it. Benry managed to gain his trust, and helped him to push the button when he was trapped under the door, only to find out that he was indeed one of the others. And on top of that he found out that Ben was on his way to collect him. I'd say that's enough to keep anyone thinking for a while, and with's locke's mental sate, i'd say change is more than likley at this point.

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It sort of makes sense, and would be cool if something to that effect proved true. But the problem is that if they can make it work once they're gonna do it again, and as many times as they can until the audience finally attacks them with torches and pitchforks. I don't want that to happen.

It's also a little too far out there, even for Lost. Hopefully tonight's episode will give us some answers, even just a little one.

All i can say is, they'd better give us something to settle our minds before they go on hiatus till february.

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Originally Posted by Sassafrass

So this is the last episode for a while? I was unsure if it was tonight or next WEdnesday that would be the last until fucking FEBRUARY. (Thats such a huge break. Frustrating.)

Sorry, there are actually 3 more episodes (including tonight's) before the hiatus. What i meant was, they had better give us something before those three episodes are up.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I'm confused. What's the signifigance of there being two islands supposed to be?

The thing that struck me more was when Jack realized he was there to save someone. It gives a reason as to why they were keeping Jack under special treatment and not making him do the same seemingly pointless physical labour that Sawyer and Kate are subjected to.

An shit, man, that trailer for next episode... ooooo they'd better deliver.

And from the sounds of it, they're just gonna totally blow our minds, and leave us totally out to dry in terms of answers.

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man, who's the creepy dude in the screen. I want more Lost. NOW!!!

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Originally Posted by Sassafrass

The survivors would have never found them on the island that THEY reside on.

Ok, i knew that. I guess it's just another one of those cases where i'm the only one who doesn't think it's that big of a deal.

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At least now, we can figure out why there was a cable runnign through the beach which Sayid found in season 1.

Hey that's a interesting thought. I had forgotten about that.

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Funny thing: Did anyone pick up on the fact that the blonde doctor who is working with Jack is a fertility doctor?

Also, does anyone remember in Claire's flash backs of when she was with the Others how Ethan was all doctory? I wonder if he's the same deal as Juliet, another Fertility Doctor, or maybe a pre-natal specialist or something. They really seem to like kids. First Danielle, then Claire, i bet Sun's next.

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You KNOW they won't.

Yeah, i know, but one can still dream right?

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God, you sound like me when I first started watching. You get used to the teasing and the need to have patience really quickly.

Yeah, i only started watching the show last year. I got a copy of Season 1 on DVD, and basically watched it all in two weeks. My dad knows a guy who's been taping each episode, so he fried us up a DVD of season 2. I've been watching them sans comercials, and basically one after the other. I have yet to develop patience.

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So I am reading also that Nikki and Pauolo are just "guest starring." "Guest starring are Kiele Sanchez as Nikki, Rodrigo Santoro as Paulo." They damned well BETTER be guest starring. What a SHITTY WAY to introduce 2 new islanders.

Well, if they're gonna be killing someone off, they're gonna need to start introudcing some more regulars. But i guess this is a good thing, in that they can actually indrocduce them properly when they actually do.

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Something that i just remembered.

A friend of mine pointed this theory out to me, and it seems like something they might use.

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Magnets have an effect on water. The magnet could be repelling the water from the island, creating a sort of bowl in the ocean. This makes it impossible for Desmond to sail out from it. At the same time, nobody would be able to see the island from ocean level, because it would just look like straight water.

Now when the magnet was shut down (or whatever Desmond did down there) the water leveled off, and parts of the island were submerged again, like say the part connecting the two Islands.

I dunno, i sorta started to realize all the holes in this as i was typing it. If this proved true then

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i'm pretty sure more than just that bit of the island would be under water, and i'm pretty sure that they would notice the lack of horizon.

Also, did anyone catch what Zeke (do we have a real name for him yet?) was saying when they were about to "operate" on Sawyer.

Something to the effect of "After the sky went purple, we've had no communications, and i can't get them back online."

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER

Also, I'll take a guess that Juliet's little videomessage was part of Ben's master plan. We saw that he knows how to con with Sawyer's pacemaker, so it should be no surprise.

This is just responding to all related sentiments of this nature.

I'm not so confident in this idea. I'm hoping that the writers are finally cluing into how the show's almost gotten too big for it's own shoes, and they're now starting to actually go somewhere finite. I think the Others are planning a rebelion against Ben, or maybe just Juliet wants him gone, and she's conning jack into believing that everyone wants him dead.

Also, remember when we saw Ben asking Juliet why she showed Jack his X-rays. I'm thinking that Ben has just resigned himself to trying to reason with Jack, no tricks, but Juliet's getting the upper hand on him.

I'm also willing to bet that the guy in the camera was a member of Roussau's science team. Maybe he'll finally give us some answers as to the numbers, or even just to Roussau herself. I also think it's time she made another apperance.

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What Ben said as justification for the existence of god... could just have easily been a plot all along that the Others had planned, since they seem to know everything about each passenger... I wonder if Desmond's hatch partner from before the plane crash was actually one of the "Others," since Ben seemed to know all about the button in Locke's hatch.

Unlikely, as that guy was in Sayid's flash backs as an officer of the American Military in Iraq.

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Something's telling me he can only predict what's gonna happen that day. The two things he's predicted i.e. Locke's speech, and Claire's tent getting hit by lightning happened in the same day as when he saw them happening.

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the biggest question running through my mind right now is abou the Swan station, and it's counterparts. Obviously, the Pearl was meant to make us think The Swan was a trick, but in the end we know that it was in fact the Pearl that was the ruse.

So what about all the other stations on the island? What do they do? We know that the Swan served to dissipate the magnet after it reached a dangerous level of magnitude (or whatever) so what were the other "experiments" going on on the island.

I think the Dharma Initiaitive is going to be shaping alot of what's to come in the show, as alot of the weird stuff seems to be connected to the name some how.

I'm guessing Mr. Eyepatch will have some answers for us after the break.

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Originally Posted by rockthepartay

In anycase, I wonder who Jacob is, and what it actually means to be on the list. They've been hinting at it for awhile, so I hope they start developing more on the motives of the Others outside of saving Ben.

Um, i missed this bit. Care to fill me in?

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An interesting theory that was i was pointed in the direction of yesterday, regarding Desmond's future seeing ability.

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When the hatch exploded, he was blasted into the future, and returned a few future days later. I'm thinking that maybe the next Desmond centric episode will be his flash back, to when he went forward in time.

I dunno, i need to think about it some more, but it could make sense.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I've been watching it. I must say it's enjoyable. Tt essentially tries to use a reworked Lost Formula, as in there's a million things all happening at once, and he figures them out one by one as the day repeats itself.

I'll probably finish watching this season, but depending on how it carries itself to the end, whether or not i watch season 2 (if there is one) is up in the air.

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I'm thinking that the folks from the beach who found Patchy in the hatch will end up getting more time as they start to search for their lost comrads. Returning to the beach, only to have the beachers start on a quest to find Jack, Kate, and Sawyer. Once Locke and the others are there, we'll get the full scoop on the Others.

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Originally Posted by Dr. Uzuki

But if they were talking about anyone specifically, they were talking about Sun.

Um, unless i missed something, i'm fairly certain that it was established that Sun has always been able to have children, it was Jin who was the problem. The docter just said it was Sun so that Jin wouldn't get pissed off, and tell Sun's father, only to have Sun's dad give the doctor the what for.

Originally Posted by Vivace119

''God loves you as he loves Jacob''

This one got me thinking. I'm not the greatest on my old testament specifics, so this could be a bible verse, i'm not sure. If it isn't however this could be big.

This could imply that the Others are religious, possibly to the level of cult. They're brainwashing a defector, with a part of the process referencing a prominent bible character, or one of their leaders. I hope at least some of you remember Ms. Klugh's line "He wasn't even on Jacob's list." This Jacob character has only been mentioned once (that i can remember), and that is during Ms. Klugh's line. This could be the second time we're hearing about this guy.

Then again, it could just be mindless rabble used in the process of breaking the mind in order to reshape it. I don't think that the apperance of Jacob's name is coincidence though.

As for this last episode over all, i thought it was good. It was interesting to see the character contrast between Juliet now, and Juliet then. I also think that Ben is hoping to replace Juliet as the Others' doctor with Jack. Thanks to Jack's kidney sack stunt, there's no way Ben's gonna live up to his end of the deal.

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Originally Posted by Dr. Uzuki

Castaways are caught passing through the flashbacks of others every other episode.

I don't have any recollection of this ever happening. Can you give me an example?

EDIT: sorry, i thought you meant that The Others appear in castaways' flashbacks, and vice versa. My bad.

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Originally Posted by Me

I don't have any recollection of this ever happening. Can you give me an example?

EDIT: sorry, i thought you meant that The Others appear in castaways' flashbacks, and vice versa. My bad.

Don't worry, i caught on a few seconds after i made that post.

Also, did anybody watch the Lost Suvivor's Guide? Did anyone see any mention of Ana Lucia, Libby, or Bernard? They mentioned Mr. Eko once. Something tells me they regret introducing the tail section characters.

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Originally Posted by Mithrandir

It says: "Only fools are enslaved by time and space"

Sounds sort of like Ms. Klugh's voice doesn't it?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I'm interested in all of those questions, except for the Jack and Claire one. Yeah, that one can just get swept under the rug thanks. We don't need crazy soap-opera relative shockers in this show. It's outrageous enough as it is.

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I think what they should've done for season three is replace the flashbacks with parallel events. The end of season two showed us some dudes in an arctic weather station or something, and after the hatch blew up (or whatever the fuck it did) they reported to someone that they "found someone", or am i mistaken.

I think they should introduce a search party, who's out looking for the survivors, or hell, maybe a group of people who's going against the Dharma Initiative, or something. Instead of flashbacks, we just switch between the stories, the islanders, and the searchers.

I've become sick of coming with theories about where the show is going, latley i've been thinking of ways to explain things if i were one of the Lost writers. I've come up with some ideas, and it's gotten to the point that if they come up with anything less i'm gonna be pissed off.

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I've never watched an episode of Lost during it's regular run on TV. I always tape it because of my night classes on wednesday night. And i know of at least 12 other people who have to do that in that class.

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I'm always amazing that people still laud 24 as the greatest show in earth, when Lost gets this sort of treatment. I see little discrepency between the levels of ridiculous in the two shows. 24 is more "realistic" though, but only to the extent that everything falls within the realm of possibility. If you ask me, 24 has taken alot of the same turns as Lost, but more with character issues. I'm so waiting forward to Phillip Bauer's explanation for all this.

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It's nice to see Lost take a break from the constant "Hey look what's happening now, isn't that impressive?" attitude. This episode was relaxing, and something to enjoy. As much as i can't wait to get back to all the plot twists, and events they usually throw at us, i think it's good to see that the writers are cooling off on that sort of thing.

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More or less a good episode. I liked how they just got it out of the way that patchy was an other, and not have him lead them on for many episodes only to use him for yet another plot twist. I just wanna know how exactly Sayid knew he wasn't with Dharma, and how he figured Ms. Klugh was there.

Also, how much you wanna bet Klugh was only there so she could die, and people would stop asking about her.

So, in the flashbacks, did Sayid really torture that woman? or did he just say that to get out of there? I seem to remember seeing her in a previous episode, possibly in Sayid's flashbacks when he was with the Republican Guard, or just after.

Hopefully we'll get some answers when Locke, Sayid and Kate storm the "bunker". I'm glad that they gave them a map to follow, implying that they planning on actually going somewhere with the plot, rather than just pussy footing around getting to the meat and potatoes behind the show.

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