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[Movie] 24 Season 6 Discussion Thread
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Old Jan 17, 2007, 01:03 AM #1 of 410
I'm a bit tired of the series unnecessarily killing good characters. I like the 'no one is safe except Jack' premise, but they've already more than proved their point. I don't know if the writers are doing this for shock value or they're too cheap to negotiate new contracts but DAMN! Did Jack actually have to kill Curtis? It could have easily been a non-fatal shot that put him out for a few episodes or even the entire season, but NOOO they have to kill him off. I'm not so much upset that Curtis was a good character that's no more, but that when you continue to be 'cutting edge' it gets a bit tiresome.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 01:37 AM #2 of 410
Jack's whole "I CANT DO THIS ANYMORE~" is gonna fall off the map just like his drug addiction did in S3. The writers go "yea, this works~ Uhm... Fuck, let's drop it."

It's pretty clear what happend. He did want to get out, but when the nuclear bomb hit he wanted back in. Hell Jack said exactly that during the episode. Jack, if nothing else, has always had an intense sense of duty. It's perfectly reasonable that the Bomb and the threat of more overrode his unitial unwillingness to help. This isn't hard to get.

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Old Jan 24, 2007, 07:08 PM #3 of 410
haha so basically what we learned here is the moment jack quits is the moment the US gets nuked.

jack: "i can't do this anymore..."
*NUCLEAR EXPLOSION*
jack: "alright, i'm back."

Whether or not you like the timing of the bomb as a plot device is up to you. The reasoning for why Jack is back in the game is independent of that, reasonable, and easy to understand.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Feb 6, 2007, 02:41 AM #4 of 410
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Was the whole subplot with Walid and Sandra Palmer just meant to play Wayne into not backing Lennox's plan? Figured something would pop up amid the end, kinda like they found something important. Maybe not?
I believe it was just a red herring. Which I'm GLAD to see. As much as I love 24 one problem is that every lead has always seemed to be right on the money. Although something may happen to nullify it every lead has always seemed to at least be in the correct direction. I liked the dead-end. It also gives a bit of perspective to the audience in that everyone who the "good guys" go after aren't always the bad guys.

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After going through that though, it would have been great to see Jack get the satisfaction of killing Graem (or at least torturing him some more), but instead his Dad does it for reasons I'm still not even sure of
Specific reasons no, but it should have been obvious from what the father said. They were going to take his son back to CTU to be questioned. His son still had information that could incriminate him. He couldn't take that chance so he killed him.

I had a feeling an episode like this was going to happen. The previous two were the calm before the storm. I didn't post before because the bitching in the thread was getting on my nerves. 24 Has been quasi-formulaic the last 5 seasons. Always high paced. It's refreshing to still be presented with a high quality drama, but have the pace changed a bit.0

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Old Feb 20, 2007, 09:56 AM #5 of 410
I can offer a pretty reasonable explanation for Jack's dad leaving.

Don't forget what he's touted all along. "He's a patriot". He's no different than the terrorists, it's just that he's backing the US. He probably realized that he's lost all of his power. His comany is a government target, so any of his would-be contacts probably view him as radioactive. Whether he likes his son's choices, methods, or association with the government he's smart enough to know that Jack has a better chance of stopping the crisis than he does. Think about it. What does he have to gain by killing Jack? Jack's potiential to stop the bombs is worth many many times more than his revenge, or other retalitory emotion. Furthermore, he can still use what little resources he has with or without killing Jack. His death just wasn't necessary.

Lastly, I don't understand the bitching about the family angle. Most of the past 24 episodes have Jack behaving like little more than a sentinel. While I certainly don't want a soap opera I don't see what's wrong with bringing a little humanity to the main character. Perhaps the word "humanity" isn't the precise word, but all action isn't a good thing either. It's good to see internal conflict, and friction which can't be quelled by gunshots. Each season may only be a day, but it's a little cold to have a recourring characher with 0 back story.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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